Absolute Beginner. Help!

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26 Apr 2025 14:10 - 26 Apr 2025 14:12 #327084 by Nick_Hacking
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Dear All,

I'm very new here.

I'm a big fan of This Old Tony and I watched his CNC build thinking that I'd love to do something like that - except that while I've got a workshop full of machine tools (I've been quietly collecting them, for my retirement) I have very limited skills. I doubted that I could make one that would have any sort of precision. I looked at the flimsy inexpensive ones on eBay. Not convinced they'd do what I want... and then up popped a second-hand industrial machine just 30 miles down the road and within my budget.

It's about a yard square, solidly made of steel, with what seem to me to be high quality, if aged, Japanese stepper motors and ball screws. The control box that came with it contains nothing more than a Gecko controller and a PSU. The computer that used to run the macine was dying but I got it to boot up long enough to determine that it was running Windows XP and Mach3 (so probably about 20 years old?).

I've cobbled together a PC from some spare bits that I had lying around and installed LinuxCNC. I've found a parallel port which looks like it will plug into my motherboard, so I believe that I can connect it all together and off I go.....

What should I do now? What should I read to get started? Is anything bad likely to happen from just experimenting without actually knowing what I'm doing? I don't want to wreck what looks like a good quality piece of kit, even if it isn't bang up-to-date. All help and advice will be gratefully received.
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26 Apr 2025 14:43 #327085 by Aciera
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You need to figure out the pin assignment of the parallel port connector. So the first thing I would try is to get the original Mach3 config file from the old PC. If I remember correctly it's an .xml file in the 'mach3' folder. This should tell you how the signals are arranged on the parallel port connector. This is needed to set up linuxcnc using the 'stepconf' tool.
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26 Apr 2025 15:18 #327086 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Absolute Beginner. Help!
Does the Gecko have G540 written on it?
If not, does it have 4 of DB9 connectors? That would be the G540, so it has a standard pinout and the wizard included with LinuxCNC named StepConf has a pinout for it.
Also do keep in mind that if it turns out to actually be a G540, it has a very strange feature where it does only 1 pulse from 10 pulses on the input, it was labeled as microstepping but it is not, so you do need to add 10 in the wizard for microstepping.
See if you can find a used Dell OptiPlex 980 in the big case, those have a built in parallel port and work nicely with LinuxCNC, usually 30-70$.
You might also need a plain parallel port cable, or old printer cable, sometimes also named centronics.
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26 Apr 2025 16:31 #327091 by Nick_Hacking
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Thanks to both of you.Being somewhat impetuous, I put it all together and started tinkering while I waited for advice.... nothing's gone bang. Yet.

Yes: it's a G540. I've just been playing in the workshop and I found the preset for it. Using stepconf, I've been moving the x,y,z and A axes about, like a gleeful child with a new train set!

Sadly, the original computer is now dead and buried. I did keep the hard drive from it, but although I tried connecting it to another Intel motherboard (the original was an Intel dual core) I couldn't get it to boot. Now I think I need to verify the motors. Z and Y use Vexta PK268-02A but the x-axis appears to use an Italian motor HY 200 2232 - 160 88 looks like the model number. I shall have to do some Googling, to find data sheets.

I see a steep learning curve ahead......

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26 Apr 2025 16:42 #327092 by Nick_Hacking
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Google suggests that they are both 1.8 degree (200 steps per revolution) motors, so stepconf's default values should be fine...

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26 Apr 2025 16:56 #327093 by tommylight
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Do not bother to much with the details for now, assume standard stuff, make some test configs, do some measuring to make sure the axis moves the exact distance as commanded, let it rip! :)
You can make as many configs as you like for the same machine, you can even edit the scale and some other stuff while LinuxCNC is running and save from there, using the "calibration" from the "machine" menu.
It would help to know the exact screw pitch, so mark the screw and the nut with a sharpie, turn the screw several times, measure, enter that in the wizard.
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