Advice on Mesa cards for 6 axis servo motors

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9 years 1 month ago #99615 by Todd Zuercher
A 7i76 has one encoder input and 5 step/dir outs, a 7i85s only has 4 encoder inputs, and 4 step/dir outs. That is only a total of 5 encoders. There would be a total of 9 step/dir outputs.

If you use step/dir output encoder feed back is not necessary. But it can add some advantages such as, the ability to use Halscope when tuning the servos, recovery from E-stop without requiring homing the machine (Linuxcnc can still track the position even when the servo drive is disabled), monitoring following errors within linuxcnc, and closing the position loop within Linuxcnc.

I thought that you were wanting to take advantage of all of the possible features your servo drives offer, one of those features is an encoder pass through.

The 50 pin headers on the FPGA cards don't actually even have 50 io points/header (there are actually only 24), but through a great deal of electronic trickery the daughter cards that connect to them can greatly expand their capability. For example the 7i76 card connects with a DB25 plug with 25 pins, but only 17 are actually for data. But the card has many more input/output connectors than just 17 (or even 25). The 7i76 has 5 differential pair step/dir outputs, thats 20 wires just there, plus a +5v and GND for each of those sets (10 more wires), 8 wires for the spindle encoder, 3 wires for the analog spindle command, 4 wires for spindle enable and dir, 6 wires for an RS422 connection, and 48 more digital IO points. That is nearly 100 possible wire connections serviced by a single 25 pin plug. (and possibly a lot more if a Smart serial expansion card is added)

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9 years 1 month ago #99616 by Todd Zuercher
If you only use step/dir control to the drives, you are only going to use maybe 8 of the connectors on the drives 44 pin plug. 2 wires for step, 2 for dir, +5v, GND, an Enable, and a Fault

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9 years 1 month ago #99617 by Marcodi
The shop told me the 7i76 has 5 encoder inputs and 5 step/dir.

Also said that better to use step/dir instead of analogue because it's a newer way of communication with less loss in signal.

I indeed want to get full use of the servos and drivers...

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9 years 1 month ago #99620 by Todd Zuercher
That is like saying digital music recordings are better than analog ones. There are many audiophiles who would beg to differ.

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9 years 1 month ago #99622 by Marcodi
Alright , I can follow this.

The shop send me indeed he made a mistake. You were correct.

So it would be now 6i25, 2x 7i85s and 1 X 7i66

Can you get more of the advantages out of the drives with analogue? Or is analogue or step/dir choice not changing that?

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9 years 1 month ago #99631 by Todd Zuercher
As to which is better digital vs analog, it all depeds...
Just like with audio equipment, It mostly comes down the quality of the hardware and how it's set up.
I have no idea if the digital or analog portions of those drives whether one is better than the other. And I doubt anyone else knows either. (Maybe not even the manufacurer.)
So it all comes down to personal preference, and what you feel most comfortable setting up.

A 6i24, one 7i52s and a 7i37TA would be little cheaper and offer a few more expansion options.

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