Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
29 May 2017 15:14 #93795
by McAdam
Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help was created by McAdam
So I have been a long time lurker, and this is my first post.
I usually find all the fixes/info i need, but for this I am stumped.
The issues is as follows.
If only one input switch is activated (closed) then all others (open ones) work fine (on then off)
if two are activated (closed) then the rest all get stuck closed once activated and to not turn back off(go to open.
When this first happened I was editing some stuff in my HAL and INI, so I tried to revert the changes as much as possible - No Fix.
I then ordered a replacement BOB thinking this was the issue - No Fix
so I changed the wiring on my machine so all switches are NO (except e-stop) - Worked for a few homing cycles then broke again
I believe if I wire the E-Stop in NO then I should be able to home (as only one switch would be activated at any time)
This leads me to believe that something has Borked on my Motherboard
Can anyone please give me some pointers on what to test to diagnose and fix this gremlin... It's putting a halt on all my plans for my time off, beyond frustrating!
Thanks Everyone
BOB is Generic Green Chineese Board with Relay as sold by many retailers (says it has opto-isolators and limit switches have resistors on them)
I usually find all the fixes/info i need, but for this I am stumped.
The issues is as follows.
If only one input switch is activated (closed) then all others (open ones) work fine (on then off)
if two are activated (closed) then the rest all get stuck closed once activated and to not turn back off(go to open.
When this first happened I was editing some stuff in my HAL and INI, so I tried to revert the changes as much as possible - No Fix.
I then ordered a replacement BOB thinking this was the issue - No Fix
so I changed the wiring on my machine so all switches are NO (except e-stop) - Worked for a few homing cycles then broke again
I believe if I wire the E-Stop in NO then I should be able to home (as only one switch would be activated at any time)
This leads me to believe that something has Borked on my Motherboard
Can anyone please give me some pointers on what to test to diagnose and fix this gremlin... It's putting a halt on all my plans for my time off, beyond frustrating!
Thanks Everyone
BOB is Generic Green Chineese Board with Relay as sold by many retailers (says it has opto-isolators and limit switches have resistors on them)
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29 May 2017 15:32 #93798
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
How are your switches wired to the BOB?
If you have all linits in one input there are diferences in using no or nc in the config so that should be changed acordingly.
E-stop shoul have it"s own input, not the same as limits.
If you have all linits in one input there are diferences in using no or nc in the config so that should be changed acordingly.
E-stop shoul have it"s own input, not the same as limits.
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29 May 2017 15:34 #93799
by McAdam
Replied by McAdam on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Each Axis and the E Stop has its own input (4 in use)
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29 May 2017 16:50 #93800
by McAdam
Replied by McAdam on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Ok, I thought I would provide some more information as re-reading what I wrote is not completely clear.
Each Axis on individual Pin
E Stop = NC
Rest = NO (they were NC but same issue happens, just one step earlier)
When Homing:
Z will go looking for home, find it, and stay there (Switch becomes Closed)
X Will look for home, Finds Switch, Switch Triggers, X Backs off, Switch is still and remains triggered(This is the problem). X Keeps moving (its expecting the switch to become open but it never does)
As soon as 2 inputs are Closed, any others that are momentarily closed get stuck in the closed position. This is not a physical switch issue.
Problem confirmed using HAL Scope.
Each Axis on individual Pin
E Stop = NC
Rest = NO (they were NC but same issue happens, just one step earlier)
When Homing:
Z will go looking for home, find it, and stay there (Switch becomes Closed)
X Will look for home, Finds Switch, Switch Triggers, X Backs off, Switch is still and remains triggered(This is the problem). X Keeps moving (its expecting the switch to become open but it never does)
As soon as 2 inputs are Closed, any others that are momentarily closed get stuck in the closed position. This is not a physical switch issue.
Problem confirmed using HAL Scope.
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29 May 2017 17:10 #93801
by Todd Zuercher
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What kind of switches are you using?
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29 May 2017 17:12 #93802
by McAdam
Replied by McAdam on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Standard mechanical switches when I was running NC
Some 3D Printer Mechanical Switches (have built in resistors and handy LED) for NO (had them laying around)
Some 3D Printer Mechanical Switches (have built in resistors and handy LED) for NO (had them laying around)
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29 May 2017 19:33 #93815
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Is ut possible that the LEDs flow enough current to hold the pin high?
I would normally be blaming capacitative carry-over in the multiplexer except I don't think there are any involved here.
I would normally be blaming capacitative carry-over in the multiplexer except I don't think there are any involved here.
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29 May 2017 19:39 #93816
by McAdam
I dont think its the LEDs, I have tried plain mechanical switches directly and get the same result.
No idea what this is
Any ideas to test?
Replied by McAdam on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Is ut possible that the LEDs flow enough current to hold the pin high?
I dont think its the LEDs, I have tried plain mechanical switches directly and get the same result.
capacitative carry-over in the multiplexer
No idea what this is
Any ideas to test?
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29 May 2017 22:38 #93822
by Todd Zuercher
Replied by Todd Zuercher on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Do you have a link to any info on the bob (such as where you got it from)?
I think the blame has to lie somewhere with the bob or how you've wired it. But we're only guessing since we don't know exactly what you've got or how it's hooked up.
Does the bob require an outside voltage source?
I think the blame has to lie somewhere with the bob or how you've wired it. But we're only guessing since we don't know exactly what you've got or how it's hooked up.
Does the bob require an outside voltage source?
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29 May 2017 22:41 #93823
by McAdam
This is a link to the exact board - but from a different supplier.
www.omc-stepperonline.com/5-axis-cnc-bre...iver-stv2-p-197.html
Yes It should have a minimum 5V but I also have 12v for the relay
Replied by McAdam on topic Sticking Home/Limit Switches - Please help
Does the bob require an outside voltage source?
This is a link to the exact board - but from a different supplier.
www.omc-stepperonline.com/5-axis-cnc-bre...iver-stv2-p-197.html
Yes It should have a minimum 5V but I also have 12v for the relay
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