triac changer tool
23 Oct 2018 12:13 #119259
by gmarconi2
triac changer tool was created by gmarconi2
Good morning
I have a working configuration with mesa 6i26 7i76 step dir XYZA
I would like some information on how to correctly install triacchanger.comp and ioControll.cc attached to triacchanger.
I used "sudo halcompile --triacchanger.comp"
but I do not know how to do with ioControl.cc
How do I then know which pin output and pin input for the tool change
Thank you in advance
gmarconi2
NB my tool changer is a carousel with 10 positions and an arm that moves horizontally, so the spindle must be raised and lowered
I have a working configuration with mesa 6i26 7i76 step dir XYZA
I would like some information on how to correctly install triacchanger.comp and ioControll.cc attached to triacchanger.
I used "sudo halcompile --triacchanger.comp"
but I do not know how to do with ioControl.cc
How do I then know which pin output and pin input for the tool change
Thank you in advance
gmarconi2
NB my tool changer is a carousel with 10 positions and an arm that moves horizontally, so the spindle must be raised and lowered
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23 Oct 2018 15:47 #119269
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic triac changer tool
You can probably use the already-existing "carousel" HAL component in place of triacchanger.
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/carousel.9.html
Axis moves as part of a tool change are best handled by a G-code subroutine.
Load the sim/axis/vismach/VMC-toolchange sample config for an example (this can run on your installed system without harm, it will not attempt to move any hardware).
The G-code subroutine looks like this:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...hange/toolchange.ngc
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/carousel.9.html
Axis moves as part of a tool change are best handled by a G-code subroutine.
Load the sim/axis/vismach/VMC-toolchange sample config for an example (this can run on your installed system without harm, it will not attempt to move any hardware).
The G-code subroutine looks like this:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master...hange/toolchange.ngc
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23 Oct 2018 16:13 #119272
by gmarconi2
Replied by gmarconi2 on topic triac changer tool
Thanks for reply
I've already tried and I have a simulated VMC-toolchange configuration and I think that's the solution for me.
My problem is that I do not understand how to go from simulation to the real machine.
Greetings gmarconi
I've already tried and I have a simulated VMC-toolchange configuration and I think that's the solution for me.
My problem is that I do not understand how to go from simulation to the real machine.
Greetings gmarconi
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23 Oct 2018 20:26 #119282
by gmarconi2
Replied by gmarconi2 on topic triac changer tool
Ok andypugh I read your previous posts then:
In the toolchange.ngc
M64 P2 #mute high digital output 2 to move the arm) I read well?
In the toolchange_index.hal
net arm-act motion.digital -out 02 #how I know in my mesa card that pin is
or how do I connect it to an output, I have to make a connection hal ??
Excuse the questions but I'm a beginner (a 62-year-old beginner)
Greetings gmarconi2
In the toolchange.ngc
M64 P2 #mute high digital output 2 to move the arm) I read well?
In the toolchange_index.hal
net arm-act motion.digital -out 02 #how I know in my mesa card that pin is
or how do I connect it to an output, I have to make a connection hal ??
Excuse the questions but I'm a beginner (a 62-year-old beginner)
Greetings gmarconi2
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23 Oct 2018 23:19 - 23 Oct 2018 23:20 #119298
by andypugh
You would need to choose an output pin, for example on my lathe it might be hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12
So either add another line somewhere else in the HAL,
or modify the line above to put it all on one line
You can ignore everything in sim_vmc.hal, that is a bunch of components that do various time-delays to simulate the inputs and outputs of a real machine. You have a real machine to do that.
Replied by andypugh on topic triac changer tool
In the toolchange_index.hal
net arm-act motion.digital -out 02 #how I know in my mesa card that pin is
or how do I connect it to an output, I have to make a connection hal ??
You would need to choose an output pin, for example on my lathe it might be hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12
So either add another line somewhere else in the HAL,
net arm-act hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12or modify the line above to put it all on one line
net arm-act motion.digital-out 02 => hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12You can ignore everything in sim_vmc.hal, that is a bunch of components that do various time-delays to simulate the inputs and outputs of a real machine. You have a real machine to do that.
Last edit: 23 Oct 2018 23:20 by andypugh.
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23 Oct 2018 23:20 #119299
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic triac changer tool
In the toolchange_index.hal
net arm-act motion.digital -out 02 #how I know in my mesa card that pin is
or how do I connect it to an output, I have to make a connection hal ??
You would need to choose an output pin, for example on my lathe it might be hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12
So either add another line somewhere else in the HAL,
net arm-act hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12
or modify the original HAL line to put it all on one line
net arm-act motion.digital-out 02 => hm2_5i24.0.7i84.0.1.output-12
You can ignore everything in sim_vmc.hal, that is a bunch of components that do various time-delays to simulate the inputs and outputs of a real machine. You have a real machine to do that.
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23 Oct 2018 23:48 #119302
by gmarconi2
Replied by gmarconi2 on topic triac changer tool
Yes andypugh I do not have a real real machine, already mounted, but I have drivers and engines running in the my home lab.
So what I would like to do is test the various output signals and generate the input signals.
However, thanks to your answers to my question and reading in the forum today I learned something.
However, I will continue to ask questions to complete the retrofit project of a vertical BF400 milling machine produced in Italy by Meccanica Cortini
Greetings gmarconi2
So what I would like to do is test the various output signals and generate the input signals.
However, thanks to your answers to my question and reading in the forum today I learned something.
However, I will continue to ask questions to complete the retrofit project of a vertical BF400 milling machine produced in Italy by Meccanica Cortini
Greetings gmarconi2
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27 Oct 2018 21:06 #119519
by gmarconi2
Replied by gmarconi2 on topic triac changer tool
Andy pugh help me
In my working configuration I added the following file:
toolchange.ncg (your macro for output and tool change input)
toolchangeindex.hal In this file this is right:
(charge in rt carousel function with 10 pockets, bidirectional and one sensor each pocket)
(upload to rt conversion function to convert what?)
(hook servo-thread frequency function)
(hook servo-thread frequency function)
(this line what does it mean ??)
in my configuration I have to add this?
However, I tried to start the configuration without changing anything and stop with this error:
for now I stop here
Greetings gmarconi2
In my working configuration I added the following file:
toolchange.ncg (your macro for output and tool change input)
toolchangeindex.hal In this file this is right:
loadrt carousel pockets = 10 dir = 2 encoding = index loadrt conv_float_s32 addf carousel.0 servo-threadaddf conv-float-s32.2 servo-threadnet car-enable motion.digital-out-00 carousel.0.enablein my configuration I have to add this?
net car-enable motion.digital-out-00 carousel.0.enable => hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.output - 00However, I tried to start the configuration without changing anything and stop with this error:
Debug file information:
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Error: could not insert module /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/conv_float_s32.ko: Unknown symbol in module
./toolchange_index.hal:2: exit value: 1
./toolchange_index.hal:2: insmod for conv_float_s32 failed, returned -1
See the output of 'dmesg' for more information.
5029
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal componentsGreetings gmarconi2
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27 Oct 2018 23:12 #119526
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic triac changer tool
The documentation for all the HAL components is in this page:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/
Scroll to the bottom, and press "expand man pages". You will find carousel and conv_float_s32 in "Realtime components and kernel modules"
[code]Error: could not insert module /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/conv_float_s32.ko: Unknown symbol in module[code]Is an odd error. Is there any chance that the file has been edited on a Windows PC and the line-end character has been changed?
What is your actual "loadrt conv_float_s32" line?
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/
Scroll to the bottom, and press "expand man pages". You will find carousel and conv_float_s32 in "Realtime components and kernel modules"
[code]Error: could not insert module /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/conv_float_s32.ko: Unknown symbol in module[code]Is an odd error. Is there any chance that the file has been edited on a Windows PC and the line-end character has been changed?
What is your actual "loadrt conv_float_s32" line?
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28 Oct 2018 08:05 #119541
by gmarconi2
Replied by gmarconi2 on topic triac changer tool
This is toolchange_index.hal
After rewriting files without using "windows"
this is the mistake
Greetings gmarconi2
loadrt carousel pockets=10 dir=2 encoding=index
loadrt conv_float_s32
addf carousel.0 servo-thread
addf conv-float-s32.2 servo-thread
net car-enable motion.digital-out-00 carousel.0.enable
net car-ready carousel.0.ready motion.digital-in-00
net car-fwd carousel.0.motor-fwd
net car-rev carousel.0.motor-rev
net car-pos-req motion.analog-out-00 conv-float-s32.2.in
net car-pos-s32 conv-float-s32.2.out carousel.0.pocket-number
net index carousel.0.sense-0
net pulse carousel.0.sense-1
net car-lock motion.digital-out-01
net car-locked motion.digital-in-01
net arm-act motion.digital-out-02
net arm-in motion.digital-in-02
net arm-out motion.digital-in-04
net tool-release motion.digital-out-03
net tool-released motion.digital-in-03
net tool-prep-loop iocontrol.0.tool-prepare iocontrol.0.tool-prepared
net tool-change-loop iocontrol.0.tool-change iocontrol.0.tool-changed
loadusr sim_pin carousel.0.jog-fwd carousel.0.jog-revAfter rewriting files without using "windows"
this is the mistake
Debug file information:
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HAL: ERROR: function 'conv-float-s32.2' not found
./toolchange_index.hal:4: addf failed
5721
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal componentsGreetings gmarconi2
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