configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
17 Dec 2019 09:52 #152784
by aaron
configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter was created by aaron
Hi
I am struggling to configure a rotary axis on a xyz gantry router with two steppers on the x axis. I have attached hal and ini files for the working xyz machine and the hal and ini files I am trying to configure as a rotary. Any help on this issue would be very gratefully received.
Thanks
Aaron
I am struggling to configure a rotary axis on a xyz gantry router with two steppers on the x axis. I have attached hal and ini files for the working xyz machine and the hal and ini files I am trying to configure as a rotary. Any help on this issue would be very gratefully received.
Thanks
Aaron
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22 Dec 2019 02:00 #153010
by tommylight
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On the 3 axis ini file:
The joint 3 section must be under the joint 1 section of AXIS X.
The hal file for that ini is set up as XYZA, not XYZX as you have it set in the ini.
As you have it set, you have a 4 axis setup that has outputs active for the first 3 axis.
On the 4 axis HAL file:
remove all lines with "setp parport.0.pin-02-out-reset 1", you are reseting the parallel port so you do not need to reset pins, and the pin 4 is written in two lines
on the 4 axis ini file, again the joint 3 is in the wrong place, it has to be at the Axis X section, under joint 0
The joint 3 section must be under the joint 1 section of AXIS X.
The hal file for that ini is set up as XYZA, not XYZX as you have it set in the ini.
As you have it set, you have a 4 axis setup that has outputs active for the first 3 axis.
On the 4 axis HAL file:
remove all lines with "setp parport.0.pin-02-out-reset 1", you are reseting the parallel port so you do not need to reset pins, and the pin 4 is written in two lines
on the 4 axis ini file, again the joint 3 is in the wrong place, it has to be at the Axis X section, under joint 0
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02 Jan 2020 16:53 #153798
by aaron
Replied by aaron on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
Hi Tommylight
Thanks very much for your answer, sorry it has taken a while to get back to you.
The 3 axis configuration is working okay. In the ini. file I have moved the joint 3 section to under the joint 0 in the A axis block, so thanks for that.
In the 4 axis configuration, when I try to home the machine the the Y axis homes fine, but only one motor of the x axis moves the gantry to home, the other motor moves the gantry in the wrong direction. I can jog the Y and the Z axis, but not the rotary. There is no power going to the rotary axis.
Unfortunately I don't understand how to do the edits you suggest. I would be very grateful if you could give me a more detailed set of instructions.
Thanks again
Aaron
Thanks very much for your answer, sorry it has taken a while to get back to you.
The 3 axis configuration is working okay. In the ini. file I have moved the joint 3 section to under the joint 0 in the A axis block, so thanks for that.
In the 4 axis configuration, when I try to home the machine the the Y axis homes fine, but only one motor of the x axis moves the gantry to home, the other motor moves the gantry in the wrong direction. I can jog the Y and the Z axis, but not the rotary. There is no power going to the rotary axis.
Unfortunately I don't understand how to do the edits you suggest. I would be very grateful if you could give me a more detailed set of instructions.
Thanks again
Aaron
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03 Jan 2020 06:22 #153865
by tommylight
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The joints that are for the same axis, the X axis in your case must have "HOME_SEQUENCE = -1" for both joints.
Editing hal and ini files is easy, just open them with a text editor and edit as described, save and try to start Linucnc again to test the changes.
Editing hal and ini files is easy, just open them with a text editor and edit as described, save and try to start Linucnc again to test the changes.
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04 Jan 2020 09:37 #153973
by aaron
Replied by aaron on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
Hi.
Please, can some one tell me how to add the rotary axis to to the attached hal and ini files. I have also attached pin assignment diagram. I have looked at these files in gedit but cannot understand what is wrong. I can home and jog the X Y and Z axis but the rotary stepper has no power to it.
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Please, can some one tell me how to add the rotary axis to to the attached hal and ini files. I have also attached pin assignment diagram. I have looked at these files in gedit but cannot understand what is wrong. I can home and jog the X Y and Z axis but the rotary stepper has no power to it.
Thanks.
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04 Jan 2020 10:55 - 04 Jan 2020 10:56 #153980
by Leon82
Replied by Leon82 on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
On some of those Chinese breakout boards when you use the spindle speed feature you lose the 5th axis control. You might be able to reassign some but I'm not sure. It may have a jumperthat needs to move also
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04 Jan 2020 19:20 #154013
by aaron
Replied by aaron on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
Thanks for your response.
As far as I know I am not using the spindle speed option. I change the spindle speed on the 3 phase frequency converter. I just want to know how to edit the hal and ini files.
Thanks again
Aaron
As far as I know I am not using the spindle speed option. I change the spindle speed on the 3 phase frequency converter. I just want to know how to edit the hal and ini files.
Thanks again
Aaron
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08 Jan 2020 22:02 #154352
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
Copy and paste error:
You reset pin 04 twice, and pin 16 never.
It might not be that, though.
net ystep => parport.0.pin-04-out
setp parport.0.pin-04-out-reset 1
net ydir => parport.0.pin-05-out
net zstep => parport.0.pin-06-out
setp parport.0.pin-06-out-reset 1
net zdir => parport.0.pin-07-out
net x2step => parport.0.pin-08-out
setp parport.0.pin-08-out-reset 1
net x2dir => parport.0.pin-09-out
net home-x <= parport.0.pin-10-in
net home-y <= parport.0.pin-11-in
net home-z <= parport.0.pin-12-in
net home-x2 <= parport.0.pin-13-in
net estop-ext <= parport.0.pin-15-in
net astep => parport.0.pin-16-out
net adir => parport.0.pin-17-out
setp parport.0.pin-04-out-reset 1
You reset pin 04 twice, and pin 16 never.
It might not be that, though.
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09 Jan 2020 11:29 #154427
by aaron
Replied by aaron on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
andypugh
Thank you very much. That did the trick.
If you have a moment would you mind explaining why some of the pins need to be reset and some not.
Gratefully
Aaron
Thank you very much. That did the trick.
If you have a moment would you mind explaining why some of the pins need to be reset and some not.
Gratefully
Aaron
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09 Jan 2020 12:53 #154432
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic configuring a rotary axis on a CNC Rrouter
In principle LinuxCNC can only step at half the base thred frequency, turning a pin on during one thread cycle, then turning it off on the next.
The parallel port driver has an extra function called "reset". If a channel is specified with reset active, then the driver sets it high when required on one thread cycle, then, in the same cycle, but at the end, it checks to see if the "reset time" has elapsed and resets the registered pins back to zero. If the time has not elapsed it waits until it has and then resets (note that this wait is blocking, and should not be too long)
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/parallel-...ml#_using_doublestep
Setting STEP_SPACE to 0 in the HAL / INI is the hint to the driver that you want to use reset. If you set the step space to zero )as you did) but don't add it to the reset list, then the write thread will only ever set the pin high, and with no reset function to set it low, you will get no steps.
The parallel port driver has an extra function called "reset". If a channel is specified with reset active, then the driver sets it high when required on one thread cycle, then, in the same cycle, but at the end, it checks to see if the "reset time" has elapsed and resets the registered pins back to zero. If the time has not elapsed it waits until it has and then resets (note that this wait is blocking, and should not be too long)
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/parallel-...ml#_using_doublestep
Setting STEP_SPACE to 0 in the HAL / INI is the hint to the driver that you want to use reset. If you set the step space to zero )as you did) but don't add it to the reset list, then the write thread will only ever set the pin high, and with no reset function to set it low, you will get no steps.
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