[SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
05 Jan 2022 19:47 #230888
by spumco
Thank you PCW. I'll try it when I get home... but what starts/stops the timer/relay process?
It looks like a closed circle between the timedelay and not components. timedelay.0.out => not.0.in => timedelay.0.in => not.0.out =>
What am I missing? Or is this a continuous loop that runs as long as LCNC is open, and I turn it "on" by changing the on-delay & off-delay values up from zero?
Replied by spumco on topic [SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
You can do this with the time delay component:
loadrt timedelay
loadrt not
addf timedelay.0 servo-thread
addf not.0 servo-thread
net timeloop1 timedelay.0.out not.0.in
net timeloop2 timedelay.0.in not.0.out
And then net timedelay.0.on-delay and timedelay.0.off-delay to
pins from encoders etc that set the appropriate times
Thank you PCW. I'll try it when I get home... but what starts/stops the timer/relay process?
It looks like a closed circle between the timedelay and not components. timedelay.0.out => not.0.in => timedelay.0.in => not.0.out =>
What am I missing? Or is this a continuous loop that runs as long as LCNC is open, and I turn it "on" by changing the on-delay & off-delay values up from zero?
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05 Jan 2022 20:05 #230890
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic [SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
The servo-thread is a continuous loop that runs whenever linuxcnc is running (assuming your hal file creates it)
It is basically a timer interrupt that fires every 1 millisecond and services all the components loaded in turn.
So you never need to use loops in a component, you just wait 1 ms for the next call.
That goes for the core components like timedelay and also for custom components like Chris wrote.
Sometimes you can build what you want by combining custom components, but as Chris showed, its often easier and more efficient to write a custom component.
If you are familiar with PLC's and ladder logic like the Feral Engineer, Classic Ladder is worth using. If you have a smattering of C, writing your own component is simple and efficient. see linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/hal/comp.html
It is basically a timer interrupt that fires every 1 millisecond and services all the components loaded in turn.
So you never need to use loops in a component, you just wait 1 ms for the next call.
That goes for the core components like timedelay and also for custom components like Chris wrote.
Sometimes you can build what you want by combining custom components, but as Chris showed, its often easier and more efficient to write a custom component.
If you are familiar with PLC's and ladder logic like the Feral Engineer, Classic Ladder is worth using. If you have a smattering of C, writing your own component is simple and efficient. see linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/hal/comp.html
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05 Jan 2022 20:06 #230891
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic [SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
Yeah there's no off on this...
You could either gate the output (with an "and2" comp)
or put a and2 gate in the loop so it starts synchronously
You could either gate the output (with an "and2" comp)
or put a and2 gate in the loop so it starts synchronously
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06 Jan 2022 02:41 #230922
by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic [SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
Perfect, thank you PCW!
Had to fiddle a bit, but this works exceptionally well. Press the momentary button and the cycle starts with the output off, then 'catches up' and starts flashing nicely. ON and OFF times respond nicely when the pots are twiddled.
Next step is to set up a multiclick so I can press/hold the button for a manual blast, or a double-click to start the on/off cycle.
For posterity:
net BLAST_OFF_ANA <= hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.analogin0
net BLAST_OFF_ANA => scale.1.in
net BLAST_OFF_SCALED <= scale.1.out
setp scale.1.gain 0.125 #0-24V pot in = 0-3 seconds ON time
net BLAST_ON_ANA <= hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.analogin1
net BLAST_ON_ANA => scale.2.in
net BLAST_ON_SCALED <= scale.2.out
setp scale.2.gain 1.25 #0-24V pot in = 0-30 seconds OFF time
net BLAST_BTN <= hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.input-30
net BLAST_BTN => toggle.4.in
net BLAST_TOG <= toggle.4.out
net BLAST_ON_SCALED => timedelay.4.off-delay
net BLAST_OFF_SCALED => timedelay.4.on-delay
net BLAST_TIMER <= timedelay.4.out
net BLAST_TIMER => not.3.in
net BLAST_TIME_ON <= not.3.out
net BLAST_TIME_ON => and2.3.in0
net BLAST_TOG => and2.3.in1
net BLAST_ON <= and2.3.out
net BLAST_ON => timedelay.4.in
net BLAST_TIMER => hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.output-10 #button LED
net BLAST_TIMER => [HMOT](CARD0).7i76.0.0.output-04 #solenoid valve
Had to fiddle a bit, but this works exceptionally well. Press the momentary button and the cycle starts with the output off, then 'catches up' and starts flashing nicely. ON and OFF times respond nicely when the pots are twiddled.
Next step is to set up a multiclick so I can press/hold the button for a manual blast, or a double-click to start the on/off cycle.
For posterity:
net BLAST_OFF_ANA <= hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.analogin0
net BLAST_OFF_ANA => scale.1.in
net BLAST_OFF_SCALED <= scale.1.out
setp scale.1.gain 0.125 #0-24V pot in = 0-3 seconds ON time
net BLAST_ON_ANA <= hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.analogin1
net BLAST_ON_ANA => scale.2.in
net BLAST_ON_SCALED <= scale.2.out
setp scale.2.gain 1.25 #0-24V pot in = 0-30 seconds OFF time
net BLAST_BTN <= hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.input-30
net BLAST_BTN => toggle.4.in
net BLAST_TOG <= toggle.4.out
net BLAST_ON_SCALED => timedelay.4.off-delay
net BLAST_OFF_SCALED => timedelay.4.on-delay
net BLAST_TIMER <= timedelay.4.out
net BLAST_TIMER => not.3.in
net BLAST_TIME_ON <= not.3.out
net BLAST_TIME_ON => and2.3.in0
net BLAST_TOG => and2.3.in1
net BLAST_ON <= and2.3.out
net BLAST_ON => timedelay.4.in
net BLAST_TIMER => hm2_7i76e.0.7i84.0.1.output-10 #button LED
net BLAST_TIMER => [HMOT](CARD0).7i76.0.0.output-04 #solenoid valve
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06 Jan 2022 12:05 #230947
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic [SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
Nicely done, but who is ANA? ![:) :)](/media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png)
I absolutely and unequivocaly love HAL since the first time i edited a config, it can do pretty much everything.
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I absolutely and unequivocaly love HAL since the first time i edited a config, it can do pretty much everything.
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06 Jan 2022 12:38 #230951
by spumco
The temptation to further identify the pots as "L" and "R" was almost overwhelming as it would have led to sniggering ever time I read over that section.
But I don't need to get banned here just yet...
Replied by spumco on topic [SOLVED] Adjustable timed output flasher
Nicely done, but who is ANA?
I absolutely and unequivocaly love HAL since the first time i edited a config, it can do pretty much everything.
The temptation to further identify the pots as "L" and "R" was almost overwhelming as it would have led to sniggering ever time I read over that section.
But I don't need to get banned here just yet...
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06 Jan 2022 12:48 #230955
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