C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
22 Jul 2023 23:58 #276032
by krigby
C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board was created by krigby
I'm completely new to LinuxCNC. I have a kit from Automation Technology (www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/produc...r-2-axis-kit-small-2) and it seems to me, with my complete lack of experience, that the first thing I need to do is get LinuxCNC configured to with this the breakout board (www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/produc...directional-breakout).
Does anyone have any experience with that breakout board/kit, and can you give me any help getting started with that kit.
Thanks,
Kent
Does anyone have any experience with that breakout board/kit, and can you give me any help getting started with that kit.
Thanks,
Kent
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23 Jul 2023 00:08 #276033
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
If you have the kit, no need for the second link.
At any rate, stay off the second link, it is a simple board with nothing in it for 23$, for 5$ it would be ok for testing.
so:
Do you have a PC?
Does that PC have a parallel port? The pink/violet thingy with 25 holes on the back side?
If yes on both, download the official ISO from the download page, write it to a USB (do not copy), boot the PC from that USB, install, reboot.
In the menus there is a StepConf utility that will make setting up the machine a breeze, save, start the config.
At any rate, stay off the second link, it is a simple board with nothing in it for 23$, for 5$ it would be ok for testing.
so:
Do you have a PC?
Does that PC have a parallel port? The pink/violet thingy with 25 holes on the back side?
If yes on both, download the official ISO from the download page, write it to a USB (do not copy), boot the PC from that USB, install, reboot.
In the menus there is a StepConf utility that will make setting up the machine a breeze, save, start the config.
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23 Jul 2023 00:33 - 23 Jul 2023 00:34 #276037
by cornholio
Replied by cornholio on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
Pretty good wiring diagram they give, if you need any more info on the C10 cnc4pc should have the user guides and what not. I've used a C35 from cnc4pc and I can say it's a quality product and the documentation is good.
Some really good info here
www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/produc...directional-breakout
Some really good info here
www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/produc...directional-breakout
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11 Aug 2023 11:51 #277633
by krigby
Replied by krigby on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
Thanks for the replies. After watching hours of youtube videos (mostly about CNC, but with a cat video or two thrown in) I got my head wrapped most of the way around it all.
I have everything running well enough to do some basic testing. I still need to get limit switches installed and I would like to add a spindle encoder after that.
I have everything running well enough to do some basic testing. I still need to get limit switches installed and I would like to add a spindle encoder after that.
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11 Aug 2023 11:59 #277635
by krigby
Replied by krigby on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
not to date myself, but I know full well what a parallel port is.
Yes, I have a PC. and I had already installed the ISO. Debian!!!! Argh!!!! I would have preferred Ubuntu, and even tried that on a different box but I had no success installing linuxcnc on it and gave up.
I have years of experience with Linux, I have worked in IT for nearly 30 years, so I know my way around a PC and Linux, but CNC is new to me.
PCs with built in parallel ports are as rare as hen's teeth. I bought a PCIe parallel port card and that is working. I would have gone with an ethernet card, but everything at Mesa seems to be out of stock.
Yes, I have a PC. and I had already installed the ISO. Debian!!!! Argh!!!! I would have preferred Ubuntu, and even tried that on a different box but I had no success installing linuxcnc on it and gave up.
I have years of experience with Linux, I have worked in IT for nearly 30 years, so I know my way around a PC and Linux, but CNC is new to me.
PCs with built in parallel ports are as rare as hen's teeth. I bought a PCIe parallel port card and that is working. I would have gone with an ethernet card, but everything at Mesa seems to be out of stock.
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11 Aug 2023 12:08 #277636
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49 in stock
store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=produc...69_62&product_id=374
3 in stock
mesaus.com/product/7i96s/
store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=produc...69_62&product_id=374
3 in stock
mesaus.com/product/7i96s/
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11 Aug 2023 21:50 #277675
by rodw
I guess you could build the kernel, its not hard. I have a guide somewhere if interested.
Building Linuxcnc from source is not hard. I did a video on a chromebook as proof/tutorial...
Replied by rodw on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
Ubuntu only recently added the required PREEMPT_RT kernel to their repos but it requires a paid license.not to date myself, but I know full well what a parallel port is.
Yes, I have a PC. and I had already installed the ISO. Debian!!!! Argh!!!! I would have preferred Ubuntu, and even tried that on a different box but I had no success installing linuxcnc on it and gave up.
I guess you could build the kernel, its not hard. I have a guide somewhere if interested.
Building Linuxcnc from source is not hard. I did a video on a chromebook as proof/tutorial...
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11 Aug 2023 23:47 #277685
by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
It is free for personal use on up to 5 machines.Ubuntu only recently added the required PREEMPT_RT kernel to their repos but it requires a paid license.
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12 Aug 2023 05:14 - 12 Aug 2023 05:14 #277697
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
I missed the personal option. I believe Ubuntu Pro uses the 5.15 kernel.
Bookworm is on 6.1. A few of us have found that the network latency is generally unsuitable with the 5.x kernels if you use a Mesa card. PCW says the best he's used was 6.4 but there were some regressions in later versions. Hopefully its fixed.
Also with a parallel port, a 4.x kernel (eg. Buster) will perform better than 5.x and there is a RTAI option.
Even if you did go with Ubuntu I think you would be building the kernel before long. A RT patch has been released for 6.5. I would go with it. I'm not sure of performance with a parallel port.
There is a known path on Debian. Ubuntu seem like more work.
Bookworm is on 6.1. A few of us have found that the network latency is generally unsuitable with the 5.x kernels if you use a Mesa card. PCW says the best he's used was 6.4 but there were some regressions in later versions. Hopefully its fixed.
Also with a parallel port, a 4.x kernel (eg. Buster) will perform better than 5.x and there is a RTAI option.
Even if you did go with Ubuntu I think you would be building the kernel before long. A RT patch has been released for 6.5. I would go with it. I'm not sure of performance with a parallel port.
There is a known path on Debian. Ubuntu seem like more work.
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12 Aug 2023 05:24 #277699
by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic C10 Bidirectional Breakout Board
It may be more work but if users want to run a distribution of their choice they probably expect a bit of extra work.
FWIW my lathe has a 5.10 kernel and uses a 7i76e and has no issues.
FWIW my lathe has a 5.10 kernel and uses a 7i76e and has no issues.
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