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05 Feb 2024 01:46 #292467 by bob8020
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After installing iso and doing update/upgrade

bob@cnc:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
12.4

Dunno what it was from the iso install as I didn't know to look in /etc/debian_version.
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05 Feb 2024 02:02 #292471 by tommylight
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Cr@p, i did try that, this is what i get on an older version with plenty of updates by now:
cat /etc/debian_version
bookworm/sid
I get the same on Mint 21.2 so that threw me off.
Thanks for the tip, Phill.

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05 Feb 2024 02:12 #292473 by phillc54
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I really don't know why it wouldn't be reported in lsb_release, another Debian feature I guess.
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05 Feb 2024 02:23 #292476 by tommylight
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I really don't know why it wouldn't be reported in lsb_release, another Debian feature I guess.

I wonder the same, so just chalking it to Debian quirks.
This is what Mint returns
lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Linuxmint
Description:	Linux Mint 21.2
Release:	21.2
Codename:	victoria
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05 Feb 2024 03:14 #292480 by phillc54
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That is much more clever...
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05 Mar 2024 01:34 #295179 by pgf
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I can't quite tell from the above conversation whether this is still an open issue, or still needs field data, but I just downloaded LinuxCNC_2.9.2-amd64.hybrid.iso today, and hit this bug on an amd64 system.

/etc/debian_version contains "12.5", which is different than reported above.

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05 Mar 2024 05:12 #295193 by cornholio
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No bug, that's just the release of the Debian version used.

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05 Mar 2024 11:44 - 05 Mar 2024 11:45 #295214 by pgf
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I think it's pretty clear that if I download LinuxCNC_2.9.2-amd64.hybrid.iso from official the link at linuxcnc.org/downloads/ , and the installation fails because unnecessary Raspberry Pi firmware is inoperable on my x86 PC, then it's a bug.

Perhaps it's an unavoidable bug, or very inconvenient to fix. But the release is over 2 months old. Plenty of time for there to be a note on the downloads page with a warning, and the (trivial) fix.

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05 Mar 2024 12:07 #295218 by cornholio
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If you look at the thread announcing this release the first post gives clear instructions how to fix this.

I gave up on the official iso the other day as it could not load the firmware for my Ethernet card, even tho when booting to a live session it did. I did also mention it.
As to the raspi firmware that is a bug in the installer from Debian. I don’t know why the issue isn’t mentioned on the download page, but the download also mentions the RPi 5 image supports SPI, which it doesn’t.
So to install the latest Debian version and linuxcnc 2.9.2 on my x86 system I used the Debian netinst image, installed the need kernel manually, used the script mentioned in the docs to install linuxcnc, for less frustrating than trying to use the official image.
Now I’m no slouch in this area, I’ve made my own respin of Mint for Linuxcnc, made my own Raspberry Pi images and messed around with Mesa firmware to run on a couple of Xilinx dev boards. This was absolutely the worst experience trying to install linuxcnc on a machine. It amazes me newbies actually get anywhere.

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05 Mar 2024 18:54 #295247 by rodw
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I think the issue has come back because while we attempt to supress this behaviour in the installer, we are using a live installer so what is actually installed by debian now is different to when the installer was built due to kernel upgrades and security patches.

Its out of our control. We have told you that already. Complaining about this won't fix it.
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