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26 Jun 2024 19:34 #303841 by Irritant
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Hi,  trying to get the travel to actually measure correctly. 

I have entered:
200 motor steps
1.9 microstep
pulley 1:1
max velocity
max accel 30

Right now an inch measures 1.016"

What is my next step?

Cheers!
 

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26 Jun 2024 20:29 #303843 by Aciera
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1.9 microstep

Microstepping is usually a number that is a power of two (ie 2,4,8,16).

Your .ini file would help.

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27 Jun 2024 05:58 #303871 by cornholio
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Technically an inch is actually defined as 25.4mm, this came about in the 1930 or so as different regions had different definitions. The development of slip gauges or "Joe Blocks" had a bit to do with this.
I still can't understand why some regions of the world will attempt to use anything to avoid using the metric system......Yes it's as big as 3 football fields and as deep as 4 school buses.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch

Tho it makes no reference to slip gauges.
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27 Jun 2024 06:00 #303872 by cornholio
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Leadscrew ptich is required or the numbers mean nothing (or if belt drive belt pitch)

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27 Jun 2024 14:54 #303904 by scotth
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Look at geometry and lost motion.

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27 Jun 2024 15:19 #303906 by scotth
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Remember that the distance between London and Paris is the same whether you represent it in kilometers or miles. The only difference is the way you slice it.

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27 Jun 2024 15:26 #303907 by jimmyrig
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A quick way to get a rough idea of the problem

Jog your machine to one side

Using a tape measure from your spindle/head/whatever put a block a known distance near the end of your travel.

Tell the machine to go that location.

If it way overshoots or undershoots you have a "steps per inch" problem. Change your steps accordingly. 1.016*24in = 24.38in ...... This would be very noticable with the above method.

If it's almost spot on. E.g. 24.016 Then it's probably a backlash or squaring issue. Could also be a gearing issue if your are using a rack and pinion with that low of a step count.

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27 Jun 2024 20:23 #303931 by cornholio
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The trouble comes when one assumes km instead of miles or the other way round, ask NASA about that one.
From what I’ve heard congress in the US actually officially adopted the metric system in the mid 70’s, could of been ‘76 which would make sense as to why it was ignored.
To me consistent units of tens makes more sense than 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 22 yards to a chain, this where my knowledge of it stops apart from 1.6km to a mile.
At least a smidge, just a bit and poofteenth (this maybe just a term to my local), “about that much” & “you can drive a truck through it” are easily understood no matter your base unit. There’s a few others but not entirely in line with “the code of conduct” ;)

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27 Jun 2024 20:32 #303932 by smc.collins
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I only measure in bannanas
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27 Jun 2024 22:43 #303937 by cornholio
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I only measure in bannanas


That is most wise

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