Debian Trixie upgrade/install to 2.9.4
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16 Aug 2025 06:23 #333503
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Yup your instructions are great, went from bookworm to trixie no problems,
-it's /etc/apt/sources list
And the grub command is something else as well, do grub- then tab, it's one of them.
-it's /etc/apt/sources list
And the grub command is something else as well, do grub- then tab, it's one of them.
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16 Aug 2025 08:20 #333505
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And the grub-customizer command.
I was reading on Phoronix today that Trixie has higher performance in some things than Bookworm. I feel a bit cheated really. I am using Cinamon desktop and nothing has changed!
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Great feedback, yes I fixed the sources.list path.Yup your instructions are great, went from bookworm to trixie no problems,
-it's /etc/apt/sources list
And the grub command is something else as well, do grub- then tab, it's one of them.
And the grub-customizer command.
I was reading on Phoronix today that Trixie has higher performance in some things than Bookworm. I feel a bit cheated really. I am using Cinamon desktop and nothing has changed!

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16 Aug 2025 08:25 #333506
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I checked the ethercat repo and they had one for Debian_12 and one for Debian_Testing (trixie's pre-release name) I think the igh sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d should be changed to this. The easiest way would be to download and edit my script in a Ethercat sticky.I upgrade from bookworm to trixie & ethercat work fine
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21 Aug 2025 00:51 - 21 Aug 2025 02:41 #333741
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I have been running Trixie for several months now, based on daily builds, and also pre-releases of LinuxCNC, and everything worked fine. However, please notice that newer hardware may require to install a later kernel than what is provided in the standard repos (at least for Bookworm; I believe Trixie already has a newer kernel with its official release). Also install the newest drivers. Newer kernels usually have much better support for newer hardware, and if you have a system that hangs every now and then, driver support (especially iGPU support via MESA drivers; not to be confused with Mesa cards) is the most common cause. So, add backports to your repos and install the latest RT-kernel and drivers; this will most likely fix any hanging systems.
Also notice that open source drivers for Realtek ethernet can cause latency issues. It is best to blacklist them and install the official Realtek drivers. My N100 system has rt8168 ethernet ports, and by default Debian installs the open source r8169 driver. It is better to install the official Realtek driver (r8168 in my case); more stable and lower network latency.
To rodw: can you show us a Latency Histogram screenshot of your tuned system? Showing a graph of a system that is only running for 49 seconds with no glxgears gives a nice first impression, but I would be very curious to see how your system performs under load with:
Also notice that open source drivers for Realtek ethernet can cause latency issues. It is best to blacklist them and install the official Realtek drivers. My N100 system has rt8168 ethernet ports, and by default Debian installs the open source r8169 driver. It is better to install the official Realtek driver (r8168 in my case); more stable and lower network latency.
To rodw: can you show us a Latency Histogram screenshot of your tuned system? Showing a graph of a system that is only running for 49 seconds with no glxgears gives a nice first impression, but I would be very curious to see how your system performs under load with:
- e-cores disabled (so only running P-cores)
- hyperthreading, C-states, virtualization etc. disabled in the BIOS
- isolating cores for the RT tasks
- IRQs kept away from those isolated cores,
- and IRQs for the mesa card ethernet port pinned to the isolated cores.
I would like to see how an i7-12700 system with only p-cores enabled would compare to my cheap N100 with only e-cores. It would help me to decide what hardware I will buy for new CNC build. Thank you in advance!!!
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21 Aug 2025 02:50 #333743
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At this stage, I have only installed Trixie on my desktop. Yes, its a 20 core i7 but such hardware is totally wasted running linuxcnc. It's not relevant.
At this stage I don't think building the kernel will help much with Trixie because its running 6.12, which is the first kernel PREEMPT_RT entered the main line kernel code. In fact, its only one version behind the pointy end. Other than that, nothing much has changed from Bookworm.
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Just use your N100, follow my tweaks to get the best out of itMy N100 system has rt8168 ethernet ports, and by default Debian installs the open source r8169 driver. It is better to install the official Realtek driver (r8168 in my case); more stable and lower network latency.
To rodw: can you show us a Latency Histogram screenshot of your tuned system?
erpx.au/shop/trixie-linuxcnc-debian-trix...tion-pdf-download-48
At this stage, I have only installed Trixie on my desktop. Yes, its a 20 core i7 but such hardware is totally wasted running linuxcnc. It's not relevant.
At this stage I don't think building the kernel will help much with Trixie because its running 6.12, which is the first kernel PREEMPT_RT entered the main line kernel code. In fact, its only one version behind the pointy end. Other than that, nothing much has changed from Bookworm.
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23 Aug 2025 07:03 #333789
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Replied by jjdege on topic Debian Trixie upgrade/install to 2.9.4
Good morning,
I followed Rodw's instructions (thanks, Rodw), and upgraded from Bookworm to Trixie.
I can say that everything is fine. I only had two problems:
Several packages weren't installing automatically; they were always in the update list.
I installed them manually and solved the problem.
The Network Manager GUI in the top-right panel wouldn't start, and it was impossible to manage the network
with a graphical interface.
I solved the problem by searching online.
The thing that worries me is the warning that appears after I update from the terminal.
What does this warning mean?
Thanks
I followed Rodw's instructions (thanks, Rodw), and upgraded from Bookworm to Trixie.
I can say that everything is fine. I only had two problems:
Several packages weren't installing automatically; they were always in the update list.
I installed them manually and solved the problem.
The Network Manager GUI in the top-right panel wouldn't start, and it was impossible to manage the network
with a graphical interface.
I solved the problem by searching online.
The thing that worries me is the warning that appears after I update from the terminal.
What does this warning mean?
Thanks
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23 Aug 2025 07:49 #333790
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Great feedback. Nothing to worry about. The etherlabmaster's certificate in their repository only has a life of 2 years. If you are not using ethercat, there is nothing to worry about. It is outside of our control.
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23 Aug 2025 08:26 #333792
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Replied by jjdege on topic Debian Trixie upgrade/install to 2.9.4
Thanks Rodw
I use EtherCAT, so I'm worried!
Is there a chance that etherlabmaster will decide not to update the certificates?
If so, what's the best course of action?
I use EtherCAT, so I'm worried!
Is there a chance that etherlabmaster will decide not to update the certificates?
If so, what's the best course of action?
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23 Aug 2025 11:37 #333796
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Replied by rodw on topic Debian Trixie upgrade/install to 2.9.4
Last time it expired, they fixed it when I asked them to so nothing to worry about.
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04 Sep 2025 22:23 - 04 Sep 2025 22:27 #334447
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Replied by jaapiyo on topic Debian Trixie upgrade/install to 2.9.4
So I've been trying to get this to work and I keep getting some error with dpkg.
I'm running a clean install from the latest iso from linuxcnc.org. Upgrading to trixie according to the instructions by rodw. My hardware is a NUC 14 with an Intel N150 processor.
What's this raspi-firmware doing here? Is this causing my issue or can it be ignored? It's quite late here, so I'm done for today. I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
I'm running a clean install from the latest iso from linuxcnc.org. Upgrading to trixie according to the instructions by rodw. My hardware is a NUC 14 with an Intel N150 processor.
After this operation, 409 MB disk space will be freed.Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 179287 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-6.1.0-30-rt-amd64 (6.1.124-1) ...
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Deleting /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-30-rt-amd64
/etc/kernel/postrm.d/z50-raspi-firmware:
raspi-firmware: missing /boot/firmware, did you forget to mount it?
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postrm.d/z50-raspi-firmware exited with return code 1
dpkg: error processing package linux-image-6.1.0-30-rt-amd64 (--remove):
installed linux-image-6.1.0-30-rt-amd64 package post-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 1
dpkg: too many errors, stopping
Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-6.1.0-30-rt-amd64
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
What's this raspi-firmware doing here? Is this causing my issue or can it be ignored? It's quite late here, so I'm done for today. I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
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