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22 Sep 2026 16:38 #349785
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Amston Lake / Alder Lake-N (Atom x7433RE) with IgH EtherCAT — kernel version exp was created by EricDW
Hello all,I'm specifying the controller for LinuxCNC as EtherCAT master via IgH/EtherLab, CiA 402 servo drives, 1 kHz servo loop.. Two industrial box PCs are shortlisted, both built on Intel Atom x7433RE (Amston Lake / Alder Lake-N):
I'll be honest, AI is helping me build this machine. I am not as knowledgeable as this post makes me seem - but please dont hold that against me. I really would like some assistance rather than spending hours on a new machine only to find out it won't work for me.
- ASRock Industrial iEP-5020G — 2 × i210-IT + 1 × i226-IT
- IBASE AGS104T — 2 × i226-IT
- Is anyone running LinuxCNC + IgH EtherCAT on Amston Lake or Alder Lake-N (x7433RE, x7835RE, N97, N100, N150)? Which distro and kernel?
- Does the "6.18 or later" requirement actually bite on a 6.12 RT kernel, or is the gap mainly graphics/TCC/TSN enablement rather than boot, Ethernet and serial? I'd expect the i210/i226 drivers to be long-since mainline, but I don't want to assume.
- IgH native NIC drivers vs generic — On a recent kernel, do ec_igb / ec_e1000e still build, or are people falling back to the generic driver? If generic, what did it cost in worst-case jitter?
- i210-IT vs i226-IT for the master port. I've seen the i210 preferred here for worst-case timing. With both available on the same box, is that still the recommendation, or has the i226 situation improved?
- Real latency numbers welcome — latency-histogram max on the servo thread, under load, at 1 kHz, on any Alder Lake-N class machine.
- If you did run a newer RT kernel on Debian, did you build it yourself or use a repo, and did anything in the LinuxCNC/IgH build need patching?
I'll be honest, AI is helping me build this machine. I am not as knowledgeable as this post makes me seem - but please dont hold that against me. I really would like some assistance rather than spending hours on a new machine only to find out it won't work for me.
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22 Sep 2026 17:50 #349786
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Replied by tuxcnc on topic Amston Lake / Alder Lake-N (Atom x7433RE) with IgH EtherCAT — kernel version exp
Some general information:
The RT kernel in Debian has a linux base, initramfs-tools, and kmod dependencies, all in appropriate versions. These dependencies have their dependencies, etc.
This means you can install a foreign kernel package, but something may work incorrectly or be unstable.
If sources are available, a better solution is to compile a new kernel, although this may not be possible, due a other causes...
6.18 itself shouldn't be a problem, because Trixie has kernel 7.1 in the backports, so you can try.
The RT kernel in Debian has a linux base, initramfs-tools, and kmod dependencies, all in appropriate versions. These dependencies have their dependencies, etc.
This means you can install a foreign kernel package, but something may work incorrectly or be unstable.
If sources are available, a better solution is to compile a new kernel, although this may not be possible, due a other causes...
6.18 itself shouldn't be a problem, because Trixie has kernel 7.1 in the backports, so you can try.
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22 Sep 2026 18:37 #349787
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Replied by EricDW on topic Amston Lake / Alder Lake-N (Atom x7433RE) with IgH EtherCAT — kernel version exp
Thanks — that's very helpful. Agreed on not mixing Intel's Ubuntu-built package into Debian; "installs but might be subtly unstable" is the worst case for a machine running multi-day jobs. I hadn't understood backports were already that far ahead. linux-image-rt-amd64 is there, so I'll stay on Debian 13 and take the kernel from backports.
That moves questions elsewhere:
Does the IgH master still build its native NIC drivers on a 6.18 or 7.x kernel? ec_igb and ec_e1000e are patched against specific kernel versions and have historically lagged mainline.
Do the native drivers still compile on a recent backports kernel, or is everyone on the generic driver now?
If generic — what does it cost in worst-case jitter at 1 kHz? and is generic-driver EtherCAT running in production machines, or is it considered bench-only?
Anyone here Amston Lake / Alder Lake-N (x7433RE, N97, N100) with LinuxCNC?
That moves questions elsewhere:
Does the IgH master still build its native NIC drivers on a 6.18 or 7.x kernel? ec_igb and ec_e1000e are patched against specific kernel versions and have historically lagged mainline.
Do the native drivers still compile on a recent backports kernel, or is everyone on the generic driver now?
If generic — what does it cost in worst-case jitter at 1 kHz? and is generic-driver EtherCAT running in production machines, or is it considered bench-only?
Anyone here Amston Lake / Alder Lake-N (x7433RE, N97, N100) with LinuxCNC?
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