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Today 15:51 - Today 15:52
Replied by hermann1976 on topic NativeCAM is dangerous.

NativeCAM is dangerous.

Category: NativeCAM

Hello tuxcnc,

Many thanks for your feedback and your willingness to help me with my problem.

I can certainly understand your concerns.

I believe a clear approach is necessary. However, i think it is common practice to switch from one coordinate system—such as G54—to another during a program's execution. This offers many advantages.
I wrote a dovetail milling program (independently of NativCAM) that is variable; it automatically calculates the dovetails based on the varying widths and components of a drawer—sides, front and back pieces, etc.—and mills them accordingly.
The individual dovetails are milled within a loop where the coordinates remain relative to the same reference point. After one dovetail is cut, the G59.3 coordinate system is shifted, and the loop runs again. This continues until the entire row is finished. This keeps the G-code compact and manageable.
The situation is similar with NativCAM.
It just needs to be clearly communicated that G59.3 must not be used as a general workpiece zero point, but is reserved specifically for NativCAM.
You can set your preference in the settings (see attached image).
It is also important to include G54 in the initialization settings (see attached image).
This ensures that the system switches back to G54 after the program runs, and selects G54 again upon restarting after an interruption, thereby restoring the initial state.
Unfortunately, I was unable to trace or reproduce the error you described. Whenever I ran a program, the result was always consistent.

Thanks again for your help.
I still haven't found the source of my error.

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  • Japoo_Ness
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Today 12:15

Retrofitting a 3-axis VMC with DC servos - guidance needed

Category: Driver Boards

Then, I need to connect the shielding for the encoder signals and the driver signals. Is it okay to connect the chassis from the 7I97T to a bus bar with these shields, or is it better another way?

I also want to ask: doesn't this keep this ground somewhat floating, since it doesn't have a discharge path, or am I wrong? Or when you mean ground, do you mean power ground?
  • josemurphy
  • josemurphy
Today 11:58
Replied by josemurphy on topic looks like a bug in linuxcnc?

looks like a bug in linuxcnc?

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Glad they figured it out so quickly. Classic case of tweaking the ini limits on a fresh setup, happens to the best of us.
  • my1987toyota
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Today 09:17
Replied by my1987toyota on topic LinuxCNC-Branded USB Drives

LinuxCNC-Branded USB Drives

Category: Off Topic and Test Posts

    I will have to see what it comes out to with tarrifs in the US (Thanks to the current administration ).
I will most likely get at least one.
  • my1987toyota
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Today 09:05
Replied by my1987toyota on topic 7i76EU Availibility ?

7i76EU Availibility ?

Category: Driver Boards

Ordered mine Sunday. Thanks PCW. Looking forward to it's arrival.
  • yaska
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Today 08:52

Kitamura Zero with Yaskawa Varispeed 626 MV3 C Spindle Drive Parameters

Category: Milling Machines

I mean the MV3C. The “C” stands for “compact”; it's a smaller model and is only available in 200V. The MV3 is available in both 200V and 400V.
  • tuxcnc
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Today 07:41
NativeCAM is dangerous. was created by tuxcnc

NativeCAM is dangerous.

Category: NativeCAM

User hermann1976 in the thread forum.linuxcnc.org/nativecam/59280-nativ...-transfer-to-control described strange behavior of LinuxCNC after generating a program with NativeCAM.
Partly out of desire to help, and partly out of curiosity, I started digging into the topic...
Although I wasn't able to reproduce the error described, but I found something much more important...

Well, there are no miracles in IT.
It is not possible for the same program to work correctly sometimes and then interrupt its operation by reporting an error.
Damage to the computer had to be ruled out because the error was repeatable and could not be due to random causes.
Since the reported error concerned going beyond the machine's working space, the first suspect was the offset subsystem.
And in fact, my default coordinate system is G54, and after running ncam.ngc it switched to G57 to return to G54 after finishing or interrupting.
This is so important that the operator may not notice it at all.
Although I didn't find G57 in ncam.ngc, there is a line #<_off_rot_coord_system>=57 (I removed the spaces). In turn, in the subroutines called from ncam.ngc there are lines G#<_off_rot_coord_system>, so it is it.
I didn't look any further in the code, I just decided to check if it was possible to take the program outside the working space by entering absurd offsets.

And this is where I really got scared.

Well, ncam.ngc overwrites the offset table !
He simply treats global data as his own private data.
After finishing the operation, it does not restore the previous data (which would not work anyway if the program was interrupted), it just leaves its garbage.

If the operator now executes another program that is using G57 that has executed correctly hundreds or thousands of times, he or she will get an unpleasant surprise, because the machine will work in other place than expected.

This is simply dangerous and therefore unacceptable.
  • hermann1976
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Today 06:29 - Today 16:17

NativeCAM Problems with Program Start after transfer to Control

Category: NativeCAM

No, i mean when i push the Button on the left upper corner in NativCAM then the Programm will load autmomaticly in linuxcnc in program drive.
The video:

  • RMJ fabrication
  • RMJ fabrication
Today 06:23

Z axis torch initially going up instead of down when clicking cycle start

Category: Plasmac

Ok much appreciated here is my current hal and ini files 
 

File Attachment:

File Name: my_LinuxCN...9-29.hal
File Size:11 KB
 

File Attachment:

File Name: my_LinuxCN...9-29.ini
File Size:5 KB

And yes my z axis home/limit is at the top of travel.
  • tommylight
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Yesterday 01:45
Replied by tommylight on topic Exchange Simodrive 610 to new components

Exchange Simodrive 610 to new components

Category: Computers and Hardware

I would first check the encoders, the thin slotted disk sometimes rusts and keeps getting worse with time.
You can check the Granite Devices, i did use Argon drives and they are quite versatile, but knowing how much time it takes, i would just go for the cheap china drives with motors.
  • tommylight
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Yesterday 01:20

Kitamura Zero with Yaskawa Varispeed 626 MV3 C Spindle Drive Parameters

Category: Milling Machines

By any chance do you mean 626VM3 ?
Is this it?
forum.linuxcnc.org/30-cnc-machines/33529-hurco-bmc-20p-retrofit
Unfortunately, i do not have access to it anymore as the shop moved.
  • tommylight
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Yesterday 01:14

everybody wants to be a dev but i want to be a machinist

Category: Show Your Stuff

Nice plane, looks great made out of wood.
As for machinist, i am building a styrofoam cutter to make wings for RC planes, after building some 15 drones and a single 3D printed plane that has yet to fly.
I have built several styro cutters,eve a huge 5 axis one, but his one is for me. :)
  • tommylight
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Yesterday 01:09

NativeCAM Problems with Program Start after transfer to Control

Category: NativeCAM

What do you mean by "new program to the control" ?
Do you have 2 PC's running this and the one at the machine has issues, or what exactly?
Can you do a short video and upload to youtube or google drive?
  • snowgoer540
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Yesterday 00:05

Z axis torch initially going up instead of down when clicking cycle start

Category: Plasmac

If you want, you can post a backup of your config here, and I'll take a look at.

Your Z axis limit switch is at the top of travel right?
  • tommylight
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Yesterday 22:13

Looking urgently for a german / european Linux CNC consulting help.

Category: User Exchange

Moved to "user exchange".
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I am in Europe and i can speak German, but i am of no use for probing, i still did not build a proper mill. I can figure out everything for sure, but the time it would take is probably much longer than someone with experience.
Also, i never charge for helping here or whatever is initiated from here.
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