Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override

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6 years 7 months ago #161106 by CNCFred
funny even with thc disabled I can't cut due to error valid arc lost ...?? shouldn't I be able to cut with thc disabled?

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6 years 7 months ago #161116 by tommylight
forum.linuxcnc.org/plasmac/38567-plasmac-torch-starting-problem
Same problem, but might not be the same cause. Anyway, you would have to provide us with some halscope traces to be able to help you.

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6 years 7 months ago #161122 by CNCFred
Sorry to hear about your dog!

I think I need to find ou why I have no hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity

I will try to provide halscope results.

I think phil was asking for hal , seems I missed one

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6 years 7 months ago #161139 by rodw
Lets sort out your Arc voltage first. You calculated these correctly
calculated offset 3540.625l
calculated scale 0.012042148

But you have not entered them in Plasmac.
Have you made the change I said to correct the negative volts?

The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK. If the cut volts is only showing as 40 volts and you have a Arc OK low threshold set to 80 volts, the ArcOK signal will never come on so the cut will terminate.

So we need to get the Arc Voltage sorted out first. It does not really matter if the wrong voltage is calculated, but the ArcOK low voltage has to be about 50% of the calculated cut volts displayed on the screen.

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6 years 7 months ago #161150 by tommylight

rodw wrote: The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK.

I am sure that is not the problem, the settings most probably, but without more info from the OP i am refraining from concluding anything.

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6 years 7 months ago #161152 by rodw

tommylight wrote:

rodw wrote: The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK.

I am sure that is not the problem, the settings most probably, but without more info from the OP i am refraining from concluding anything.


From the original post Fred said the arc was 40 volts but in the screen dump he has the minimum arc OK setting is 80 volts so it will kick in as soon as the timeout expires.

But then he's changed the calibration settings so they are wrong so the first step is to get the Arc voltage and sign reporting correctly

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6 years 7 months ago #161157 by tommylight
Missed that but noticed most setting are quite off the chart.

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6 years 7 months ago #161158 by phillc54
You say you don't have
Code:
hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity
If that was the case you would not see an Arc Voltage in PlasmaC and you would get an error on startup as you have this correct line in plasmacthc_connections.hal
Code:
net plasmac:arc-voltage-in hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity => plasmac.arc-voltage-in
So you need to do what Rod said and get the arc voltage correct then move ahead one step at a time and don't start cutting until you are at the top of stairs.

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6 years 7 months ago #161164 by rodw

CNCFred wrote: Sorry to hear about your dog!

I think I need to find ou why I have no hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity

I will try to provide halscope results.

I think phil was asking for hal , seems I missed one


Its in the file you attached here on this post I quote.

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6 years 7 months ago #161197 by CNCFred
I reverted to the setup before I messed with the settings: configured plasmac new:

configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.scale -1
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.filter 1
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1

bad news, thc voltage stays at -43V ...
I will check my hardware setup of thc...

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please check also encoder2.txt

thank you for your time,...I will let you know ..

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