PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
02 Dec 2015 21:14 #66227
by Iron-Man
PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1 was created by Iron-Man
I am almost finished with the basic set-up.
The following are functioning;
All servo axis x,z,s.
Constant speed.
MPG
Door switch guard.
Now I need to connect the spindle encoder (2000ppr)to the UI for threading.
I am using a servo-amp for the spindle motor.
The spindle encoder pins do not show up in my (pathpilot) configuration. Is it possible that PathPilot has stripped these functions ?
I will post my HAL file later today when cleaned up.
By the way. Is it possible to move this entire post to the PathPilot Forum?
Thanks,
Iron-Man
The following are functioning;
All servo axis x,z,s.
Constant speed.
MPG
Door switch guard.
Now I need to connect the spindle encoder (2000ppr)to the UI for threading.
I am using a servo-amp for the spindle motor.
The spindle encoder pins do not show up in my (pathpilot) configuration. Is it possible that PathPilot has stripped these functions ?
I will post my HAL file later today when cleaned up.
By the way. Is it possible to move this entire post to the PathPilot Forum?
Thanks,
Iron-Man
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03 Dec 2015 00:05 #66243
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
And there you go...
JT
JT
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03 Dec 2015 02:14 #66252
by Iron-Man
Replied by Iron-Man on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
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03 Dec 2015 04:24 #66271
by Iron-Man
Replied by Iron-Man on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
My Hal file below. It may not be possible in PathPilot using the 6i25 - 7i77 for spindle encoder function since PathPilot is geared toward stepper motor systems. Are there any functions that can be called in HAL?, to access the spindle encoder outputs. If any of the MESA people are watching, can I make a new bit file that would provide spindle encoder a,b,z signals? If not, I will buffer the spindle signals directly to some additional I/O and read it there.
Thanks,
Iron-Man
Thanks,
Iron-Man
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03 Dec 2015 10:19 - 03 Dec 2015 12:01 #66274
by cncbasher
Replied by cncbasher on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
in most cases as pathpilot is based on Linuxcnc ( in server mode ) , with a few caveats . anything linuxcnc can do so can pathpilot including servos nothing has changed in that respect , the hal files are built the same way , as can the mesa hardware .
Now for the problems / niggles .....
pathpilot is geared around a mesa 5i25 , and on linuxcnc v2.6.0 , and has been specifically tailored to tormach machines and has been stripped of many comp files such as mux16 , and cutdown for their purposes as well as changes to some areas including the tooltable , some of these are easily re-installed manually , other are more ingrained ,
Also the 5i25 is configured in many places , through out the code , and to the fact that if it does not find a 5i25 it will try and reconfigure and indeed re-flash the 5i25 with their bit file . and also re-install their ini and hal files .
so you need to essentially strip it back and re-build for use with linuxcnc and not tormach use .
also it uses redis server in the background for communication .
it also uses an operator shell script to start , which also checks that a 5i25 is present or it forces either a re-install of software
or a reinstall of the bit file , so this could essentially overwrite a change bit file , so these are all things needed to be looked at
they also have an update structure using protected zip files , if you go that route , which of course could overwrite any changes .
although a 7i77x2 bit file should do what you need , as 6i25's come pre flashed with either stepper or servo
configuration , this would depend on your individual card . this is changed using the mesaflash utility
which is part of linuxcnc & pathpilot . as the name of the bit file is hardcoded into the files ,, then you would need to change this to reflect , the bit file you need to use , or the pathpilot code could re-flash your work back to the origional .
their are also changes to the tooltable and the pathpilot ui , that depending on the mode of operation and filename
will switchoff certian parts , such as change the displayed tool table , or work offsets , and change the use of the encoder pins
re-making a bit file can be done , i can look at that , along with any changes .
beware stripping all this back is not a 5 min job , i am looking at producing a more linuxcnc based version ,
so it's more easily maintained , i'm open to ideas .
Now for the problems / niggles .....
pathpilot is geared around a mesa 5i25 , and on linuxcnc v2.6.0 , and has been specifically tailored to tormach machines and has been stripped of many comp files such as mux16 , and cutdown for their purposes as well as changes to some areas including the tooltable , some of these are easily re-installed manually , other are more ingrained ,
Also the 5i25 is configured in many places , through out the code , and to the fact that if it does not find a 5i25 it will try and reconfigure and indeed re-flash the 5i25 with their bit file . and also re-install their ini and hal files .
so you need to essentially strip it back and re-build for use with linuxcnc and not tormach use .
also it uses redis server in the background for communication .
it also uses an operator shell script to start , which also checks that a 5i25 is present or it forces either a re-install of software
or a reinstall of the bit file , so this could essentially overwrite a change bit file , so these are all things needed to be looked at
they also have an update structure using protected zip files , if you go that route , which of course could overwrite any changes .
although a 7i77x2 bit file should do what you need , as 6i25's come pre flashed with either stepper or servo
configuration , this would depend on your individual card . this is changed using the mesaflash utility
which is part of linuxcnc & pathpilot . as the name of the bit file is hardcoded into the files ,, then you would need to change this to reflect , the bit file you need to use , or the pathpilot code could re-flash your work back to the origional .
their are also changes to the tooltable and the pathpilot ui , that depending on the mode of operation and filename
will switchoff certian parts , such as change the displayed tool table , or work offsets , and change the use of the encoder pins
re-making a bit file can be done , i can look at that , along with any changes .
beware stripping all this back is not a 5 min job , i am looking at producing a more linuxcnc based version ,
so it's more easily maintained , i'm open to ideas .
Last edit: 03 Dec 2015 12:01 by cncbasher.
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03 Dec 2015 14:27 #66280
by Iron-Man
Replied by Iron-Man on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
Cncbasher thanks for the response. My card is flashed with the 7i77x2.bit file. In testing, I start pathpilot from a command prompt. Under Linuxcnc, a show all pins, shows the correct pins to access the spindle encoder a,b,z. Under pathpilot it does not. Do you know which modules/functions would contain the spindle encoder functions?
Just to be certain, the 7i77 is only flashed with the bit files?
Thanks,
Iron-Man
Just to be certain, the 7i77 is only flashed with the bit files?
Thanks,
Iron-Man
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03 Dec 2015 14:35 - 03 Dec 2015 14:37 #66281
by cncbasher
Replied by cncbasher on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
the 5i25 is flashed either from pathpilot or independantly using mesaflash .
mesaflash is part of pathpilot so it can indirectly flash the 5i25 / 6i25 etc
depending on what ui in pathpilot your using some features are hidden , you may need to add _duality to your hal file names to
get the encoder to show , without seeing your full config it's difficult to pin down any further ..
send me your full config folder and i'll take a look .
but it will be later today , before i can look at it
mesaflash is part of pathpilot so it can indirectly flash the 5i25 / 6i25 etc
depending on what ui in pathpilot your using some features are hidden , you may need to add _duality to your hal file names to
get the encoder to show , without seeing your full config it's difficult to pin down any further ..
send me your full config folder and i'll take a look .
but it will be later today , before i can look at it
Last edit: 03 Dec 2015 14:37 by cncbasher.
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04 Dec 2015 03:31 #66352
by Iron-Man
Replied by Iron-Man on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
After talking to Peter at MESA, I did not need the (a,b,z) outputs for threading, only position and index. I have threading functioning!!
Now I just need to tidy up the wiring and enclosure.
I would like to ask the question, when gcode is running in pathpilot lathe, does the rpm show in the RPM window?
Thanks for all the help everyone.
Iron-Man
Now I just need to tidy up the wiring and enclosure.
I would like to ask the question, when gcode is running in pathpilot lathe, does the rpm show in the RPM window?
Thanks for all the help everyone.
Iron-Man
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11 Dec 2015 23:06 - 11 Dec 2015 23:08 #66852
by Iron-Man
Replied by Iron-Man on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
Last edit: 11 Dec 2015 23:08 by Iron-Man.
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12 Dec 2015 13:16 #66864
by cncbasher
Replied by cncbasher on topic PathPilot on AMD GizmoSphere 1
but does the Nut fit ! LOL
looks fine , good work so far
looks fine , good work so far
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