Converting a THCAD-300 to a THCAD-10?

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6 years 1 week ago #187209 by robertspark

robertspark wrote:

PCW wrote: The 10 through-hole resistors on the THCAD-10 and THCAD-5
are 10K .1% . The 10 through hole resistors on a THCAD-300
are 300K 1% HVR (3500v rated)

The THCAD-5 input current to voltage converter feedback resistor is 49.9k
0.1% The THCAD-10 and THCAD-300 feedback resistor is 24.9K 0.1%


may I ask which is the current to voltage converter feedback resistor?

thanks


R14

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1 year 8 months ago #320576 by Boogie
May I know what was wrong with THCAD-300 so you decided to convert it? Just curious.

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1 year 8 months ago #321012 by Uthayne
There was nothing wrong with my THCAD-300, I just switched to a divided voltage source from the new plasma cutter instead of the raw voltage from the older plasma source. By changing the input voltage for the THCAD I would get better resolution with my divided voltage source signal.

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1 year 8 months ago #321061 by Boogie
I was asking as I was wondering what is the practical resolution. Everyone talks about better resolution, but do we practically need this "better" resolution? From mesa website: "10 bits at a 1 KHz sample rate and 12 bits at a 250 Hz sample rate"
is 250 Hz update slow? is 10-bits @ 1 kHz not enough? Heard somewhere that 0.01" THC control accuracy today is pretty good and pairing it with other info that 1 V arc voltage change relates to ca 0.004" (varies but can be used as rule) gives 2.5V arc voltage change. 300 V range @ 10-bit gives 300mV resolution. If 250 Hz is enough then 12-bit gives 73 mV.

I know 0.1 nV is better, but do we need it?:)
It's just because i have two plasma sources: Powermax 45XP and CUT 70P from Stahlwerk. I'm not going to buy CPC kit for 45XP so THCAD-300 will be more universal. I don't know if my 45XP has any divider installed inside. I don't know if CUT 70P has divider as well. I'm away so have no access to machines to open them and check internals. But I have now option to buy THCAD cheaper (shipping to US instead of to europe to avoid unnecessary and significant costs).

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1 year 8 months ago #321221 by rodw
My graph in the plasma primer in the linuxcnc docs is the only real data I have seen about volts over distance.
linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/plasma/plasma-cnc-primer.html
It showed for the specific machine, it was 7.53 volts per mm with 99.4% confidence over 16000 readings. So a 2 volt range is a good target to get your 0.01" which is realistic
You voltage will be around 130-150 volts when cutting. I have run a 300 v full scale and also 170 to 200v an I never saw any difference. I would just use your thcad 300, seeing you have it, set it to 1/32 frequency and make some parts.

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1 year 8 months ago #321229 by Boogie
Thank you rodw.

I don't have THCAD yet and i just saw on Mesa website only THCAD-2 is available:( The rest is out of stock - looks like i'll have to go with THCAD-2 anyway and deal with voltage dividing somehow. My Hypertherm 45 XP is not equipped with CPC apparently, the second source as well. Buying CPC now is not and option so i will need to look at THCAD-2 if i can add some resistors to extend the range.

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