Retrofit plasma and Hyperterm max 100 HF/HV problems??

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13 Apr 2025 07:42 - 13 Apr 2025 07:43 #326207 by theysayzmajtome
Hi Guys.
Well the problem is i want to retrofit a plasma, current motors and electronics are not working correctly.
I will put NEMA 34 whit a 1:5 gearbox -> rack and pinion , only on X,Y axis, Z will be driven with a NEMA24 (using the existing lead screw)
Still not sure , open loop or closed loop steppers (more cabels more chances of EMI)
So all I/O <-> (HOME ,LIMIT , THC , USER BUTTON) will be optically isolated with a relay and additional optocoupler (machine <-> MEASA )
The current setup has an braded cable sleeve around the plasma cable in a drag chain besides all the other cables.
My question is what should i do about HF/HV arc start of the Hyperterm max 100?
I know grounding is imperative.  The CNC electronics box will well away from the plasma transformer.
Add an aditional ground rod?
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13 Apr 2025 08:18 #326210 by tommylight
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13 Apr 2025 09:09 #326212 by theysayzmajtome
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Tnx, i will read some more :)
Hope if i get something wrong i can ask :)
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13 Apr 2025 09:16 #326213 by tommylight
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13 Apr 2025 18:49 - 13 Apr 2025 18:55 #326228 by theysayzmajtome
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Here are some of my designs do you have any recomendations?I am planing to use 7i96,Kind regards
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13 Apr 2025 21:47 #326232 by rodw
Because there are no cutting forces, there is no need for closed loop motors on a plasma machine. The only time I saw missed steps was when the motors overheated which is a result of motor voltage too high and/or velocity or accelleration is too high when deliberately pushing the limits...
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14 Apr 2025 21:03 #326316 by theysayzmajtome
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Its a big plasma, 3,m x 6m
X axis has two 30mm hgr type rails,
The x axis is made from a strel tube, and has an support beam conectet to y rail
Y axis has one rail, but is masive .
All using rack and pinion
I did a quick calculation , lets assume stepper motor NEMA 34 at 800 rpm @6NM
Gear box 1:5 that is 30NM , radius of the pinion is 18mm , so we get ~1670N
That will be plenty

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15 Apr 2025 03:09 #326335 by theysayzmajtome
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My idea for ohmic probing.
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