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						13 Apr 2025 07:42		 -  13 Apr 2025 07:43		#326207
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				Hi Guys.
Well the problem is i want to retrofit a plasma, current motors and electronics are not working correctly.
I will put NEMA 34 whit a 1:5 gearbox -> rack and pinion , only on X,Y axis, Z will be driven with a NEMA24 (using the existing lead screw)
Still not sure , open loop or closed loop steppers (more cabels more chances of EMI)
So all I/O <-> (HOME ,LIMIT , THC , USER BUTTON) will be optically isolated with a relay and additional optocoupler (machine <-> MEASA )
The current setup has an braded cable sleeve around the plasma cable in a drag chain besides all the other cables.
My question is what should i do about HF/HV arc start of the Hyperterm max 100?
I know grounding is imperative. The CNC electronics box will well away from the plasma transformer.
Add an aditional ground rod?
Kind regards Marko
 
 			
					Well the problem is i want to retrofit a plasma, current motors and electronics are not working correctly.
I will put NEMA 34 whit a 1:5 gearbox -> rack and pinion , only on X,Y axis, Z will be driven with a NEMA24 (using the existing lead screw)
Still not sure , open loop or closed loop steppers (more cabels more chances of EMI)
So all I/O <-> (HOME ,LIMIT , THC , USER BUTTON) will be optically isolated with a relay and additional optocoupler (machine <-> MEASA )
The current setup has an braded cable sleeve around the plasma cable in a drag chain besides all the other cables.
My question is what should i do about HF/HV arc start of the Hyperterm max 100?
I know grounding is imperative. The CNC electronics box will well away from the plasma transformer.
Add an aditional ground rod?
Kind regards Marko
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						13 Apr 2025 08:18				#326210
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						13 Apr 2025 09:09				#326212
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				Tnx, i will read some more 
Hope if i get something wrong i can ask 
			
					
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						13 Apr 2025 09:16				#326213
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						13 Apr 2025 18:49		 -  13 Apr 2025 18:55		#326228
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				Here are some of my designs do you have any recomendations?I am planing to use 7i96,Kind regards			
					
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						13 Apr 2025 21:47				#326232
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				Because there are no cutting forces, there is no need for closed loop motors on a plasma machine. The only time I saw missed steps was when the motors overheated which is a result of motor voltage too high and/or velocity or accelleration is too high when deliberately pushing the limits...			
					
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						14 Apr 2025 21:03				#326316
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				Its a big plasma, 3,m x 6m
X axis has two 30mm hgr type rails,
The x axis is made from a strel tube, and has an support beam conectet to y rail
Y axis has one rail, but is masive .
All using rack and pinion
I did a quick calculation , lets assume stepper motor NEMA 34 at 800 rpm @6NM
Gear box 1:5 that is 30NM , radius of the pinion is 18mm , so we get ~1670N
That will be plenty
					X axis has two 30mm hgr type rails,
The x axis is made from a strel tube, and has an support beam conectet to y rail
Y axis has one rail, but is masive .
All using rack and pinion
I did a quick calculation , lets assume stepper motor NEMA 34 at 800 rpm @6NM
Gear box 1:5 that is 30NM , radius of the pinion is 18mm , so we get ~1670N
That will be plenty
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						15 Apr 2025 03:09				#326335
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				My idea for ohmic probing.
See attached pictures
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					See attached pictures
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