Hypertherm hsd130 interface

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25 Sep 2025 00:12 #335390 by bentiggin
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I am trying to figure out how to interface a thcad2 and mesa 7i97t with a hypertherm hsd130.
Originally, this machine was hooked up to an external hypertherm thc.
The hsd130 has an internal 37 pin connector that goes to a "phc interface" that has am external 15 pin connector that connected to the old thc.
Unfortunately, the phc interface's manual doesn't explain what the pins on the 15 pin connector are for or how they should be wired and the hsd130 manual doesn't even mention it.
The manual does have all the information for the internal 37 pin connector. 

 Should I just remove the phc 15 pin connector and use the 37 pin? That seems easier than trying to reverse engineer the "phc interface"?

I will try to attach the relevant pages from the manual.

The example circuits are above my head.
Do I need any relays for the arc ok and start i/o's or can they connected directly to the 7i97t?
Should I use 24v from my controllers power supply?
Can I use 2 or 3 1mohm resisters connected directly to the torch/work leads for the thcad2?
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25 Sep 2025 00:31 #335392 by tommylight
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The ARC OK and Torch ON are there, but there is voltage out at all, and that is a must for THC to function.
Might need to wire stuff inside the plasma, do you have anyone that can do that?
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25 Sep 2025 01:19 #335394 by bentiggin
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There is a wire between the torch- and the old thc's interface. I think the interface has resistors and they sampled the work+ side at the thc. But i'm guessing and there's no useful documentation for it. There is a spot on the old interface for divided arc volts, but it was never hooked up. 

So I have to do at least a little wiring inside either way, so I was thinking may as well put the thcad inside the plasma while I'm at it. 
It's a high frequency machine so maybe that'll help with emi.



 

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25 Sep 2025 01:40 #335395 by bentiggin
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Here's the old interface to the d15 connector.
J3 goes to torch- which is the bottom right of the other pic.

4 on the bottom right of the break out is 1:10 divided arc.
5 on bottom right of break out is 1:25.
They were never wired up.
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25 Sep 2025 18:42 #335422 by bentiggin
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I realize my questions probably don't make much sense so attached are some pics of how I think I should wire it, bypassing the old "phc interface."

I don't want to use the "phc interface" because I would have to make some assumptions about how it was wired.
For example, can I assume the 12v on the on the "phc interface" break out is actually 24v since the hypertherm hsd130 doesn't have 12v?
Do the wire colors correlate to the wire colors in the manual?

If I take the time to verify this, why not just bypass the "phc interface" and go directly to the 37 pin connector that I have documentation for.
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03 Oct 2025 22:06 #335798 by bentiggin
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I decided to remove the phc interface and when I pulled the 37 pin connector, I found that it only has 6 pins. 2 for arc ok, 2 for start, and 2 for hold(which I am not planning on using.) So it looks like I'll need to buy a new 37 pin connector to use the hsd's 24v. 
I am very confused by their example circuits, which are attached to my first post.

Output example 3 has cnc +24v, which appears to be be supplied by the hsd. With a name like cnc +24v, I'd expect it to come from the cnc.
Input example 2 has +24 vdc. Where is this coming from? Would this be my external power supply's +24vdc?
I am also not familiar with the t next to the resistor symbol. Is that a pull down resistor?

Tommy, I appreciate that you're the only one to respond. I assume you haven't followed up since I didn't tell you I have someone to wire up this up. I understand that this plasma has the potential to kill me and you probably don't want to be any part of that.
I am fully capable of killing myself on my own so imagine what I could with a little help.

 

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04 Oct 2025 00:21 #335803 by tommylight
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Yeah, somehow i managed to miss this.
When in doubt, more C4 !!! :)
Use relays as you have in the drawing for ARCOK, do not wire anything to Mesa, do a test cut and check if the relay closes while cutting. Do the same thing for TorchON but reversed, meaning contacts go to plasma and coil on the Mesa side but do not wire to Mesa just use whatever can give 15-24V and trigger the relay with it see if the torch fires. After this, you can wire stuff to Mesa, one at a time, test, wire, test....
As for the Arc Voltage, find the big rectifiers, usually with big aluminium heatsinks and find the positive and negative, wire two short wires to each, wire 2 of 1MOhm/2W resistors to each of those wires, on the other side of the resistors wire two thinner wires prefferably shielded and send those to Mesa THCAD, mind the polarity, although nothing will happen if you do mix the polarity but you will have no voltage reading on screen.
Make positively and ultimately sure you have the power cord and plug under your foot while adding this, i do that always to prevent someone somehow getting the idea that it belongs plugged to the wall...while i have both hands inside! :)

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04 Oct 2025 01:32 #335805 by bentiggin
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You rock. Thank you.

For the arc volts, from the torch-, it splits to two wires that go to 2 transformers? and then to the rectifier.
In the attached pic, I circled the torch- wire route in red and the work+ in white.
Should I just attach to one torch- wire at the rectifier or ?

Also, do you mean one 1Mohm/2w on each wire for a total of 2 resistors or two 1Mohm/2w on each wire for a total 4 resistors?

 
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04 Oct 2025 21:34 #335833 by tommylight
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Also, do you mean one 1Mohm/2w on each wire for a total of 2 resistors or two 1Mohm/2w on each wire for a total 4 resistors?
 

1 resistor on each wire, two in total.
So my advice on wiring on the rectifier wont work as this seems to be an SCR controlled rectifier, but there is hope, wire resistors to the big terminals on the picture on the left side, use a DVM to find the torch and clamp connections, clamp will be positive and torch will be negative but you have to remove the torch cap to check as the outer torch nozzle is not connected to any of those.
Are the high voltage/high frequency parts on the other side of that metal wall?

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05 Oct 2025 20:41 #335877 by bentiggin
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I believe the high frequency parts are on the other side of the wall to the left. Pic attached of what i think is the high frequency parts.

The torch- and work+ have been identified so that shouldn't be a problem.

 
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