QTPlasmaC post processor - SheetCam?
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14 Mar 2025 08:55 #323898
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I had a job which I filled a 8' x 4' sheet with some flanges and small parts. I cut it in 3 sections on a 4' x 4' table and there were heaps of probing so over time I tweaked the probing routine heights etc. I was using my hypersensing which uses a THCAD for the ohmic sensing. it does not like Hypertherm machines on a water table but it would work for you by the look.
Part of the speed comes from the way it breaks contact on up travel because as soon as it senses a fall in voltage, probing finishes (before the contact is broken).
I've been sent a ohmic circuit from Proma Elextronika in Poland. Its a very nice piece of kit and have some very good reviews on it. This will by my water table solution.
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I assume you mean this oneI just watched your YouTube video on you high speed ohmic and it’s impressive.
I had a job which I filled a 8' x 4' sheet with some flanges and small parts. I cut it in 3 sections on a 4' x 4' table and there were heaps of probing so over time I tweaked the probing routine heights etc. I was using my hypersensing which uses a THCAD for the ohmic sensing. it does not like Hypertherm machines on a water table but it would work for you by the look.
Part of the speed comes from the way it breaks contact on up travel because as soon as it senses a fall in voltage, probing finishes (before the contact is broken).
I've been sent a ohmic circuit from Proma Elextronika in Poland. Its a very nice piece of kit and have some very good reviews on it. This will by my water table solution.
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22 Mar 2025 02:16 #324510
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Oh ok so you’re not waiting for the voltage to go to zero to trigger the contact. Your looking at any voltage drop and once it does it’s triggering contact. That make perfect sense to use a thcad and watch the frequency output. Then you could set the trip frequency on the encoder input on your mesa board. I wonder if there is a way to double duty a single thcad-10.
You know I stumbled upon something the other day by accident that could work. I was using my fine cut consumables. And I was testing my retraction to make sure my actual retraction was what the display was stating it was. I held the ohmic button down and moved z down till it stopped from the ohmic trip. But I noticed when it touched I seen a +10v on the cut voltage. I did it agian and it was still there. So I started looking around and found a tiny slag bead stuck up in the nozzle bridging the nozzle to the shield. This was back feeding the ohmic voltage into the nozzle and it was showing up on the cut voltage.
Would there be a way to use this to sense ohmic. I don't know the ramifications to running the nozzle bridged to shield but it had been like that for awhile as I had just been cutting.
You know I stumbled upon something the other day by accident that could work. I was using my fine cut consumables. And I was testing my retraction to make sure my actual retraction was what the display was stating it was. I held the ohmic button down and moved z down till it stopped from the ohmic trip. But I noticed when it touched I seen a +10v on the cut voltage. I did it agian and it was still there. So I started looking around and found a tiny slag bead stuck up in the nozzle bridging the nozzle to the shield. This was back feeding the ohmic voltage into the nozzle and it was showing up on the cut voltage.
Would there be a way to use this to sense ohmic. I don't know the ramifications to running the nozzle bridged to shield but it had been like that for awhile as I had just been cutting.
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22 Mar 2025 02:44 #324513
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Yes, that was one of the original reasons the ohmic test was included. It was intended to check if there was a short like yours before starting a job. It does not happen very often. I only ever experienced it once and I found a bit of rubbish inside the tip, much like you did. I have thought of setting it up to use one thcad. I'm sure it could be done fairly easily.
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22 Mar 2025 02:51 - 22 Mar 2025 02:52 #324515
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Here is a quick test where I jumped the shield to the nozzle and then feed voltage from my ohmic into it and then ground the nozzle and the voltage drops like a stone. My thcad-10 is using opto22 and relays to isolate everything so that’s why I have to trigger the ohmic button to send voltage to the nozzle.
youtube.com/shorts/fuJnQ76LXl8?si=pr583jeB8bvqNj0g
youtube.com/shorts/fuJnQ76LXl8?si=pr583jeB8bvqNj0g
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22 Mar 2025 03:35 #324517
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You could get rid of the short and try adding an isolated 24v power supply (Meanwell hdr-15-24) that is connected to the plasma inputs on the thcad. When cutting, nothing will get damaged. The hypersensing component can see full torch voltage when you are cutting and it does not care... so this should give you the confidence to do it
You might need to and2 the probe signal so it will only turn on when actually probing.
You might need to and2 the probe signal so it will only turn on when actually probing.
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