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09 Jan 2021 12:40 - 09 Jan 2021 12:41 #194585 by robertspark
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make -j8

is actually the number of parallel operations not the number of simultaneous "files".... and the -j switch must correspond to your number of processors your hardware has.... -j8 would be for an 8 core processor....

you should run
nproc

(number of processors)

before "make -j8"

or the cover all syntax would be
make -j$(nproc)

that way it will always run the right number of parallel operations for your specific hardware (should you be lucky enough to have a 24 core processor....)
or like me a 2 core...
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09 Jan 2021 14:52 #194591 by my1987toyota

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10 Jan 2021 10:18 #194702 by rodw
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make -j8

is actually the number of parallel operations not the number of simultaneous "files".... and the -j switch must correspond to your number of processors your hardware has.... -j8 would be for an 8 core processor....

you should run
nproc

(number of processors)

before "make -j8"

or the cover all syntax would be
make -j$(nproc)

that way it will always run the right number of parallel operations for your specific hardware (should you be lucky enough to have a 24 core processor....)
or like me a 2 core...


Hmm, I just had to go into my office to run nproc and the answer was 4.
I knew J was tied to the number of processors but did not know how to check.
So I don't think its an issue if the number exceeds the number of processors.
I do know from past experience it makes a massive difference to compile time.

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10 Jan 2021 10:44 - 10 Jan 2021 11:12 #194704 by robertspark
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Rod, I don't know, but it may result in jobs being placed in a partial complete que (I don't know enough about linux)

there is a bit of a discussion here, but the theory goes that if you've got a 4 lane motorway (freeway / highway) don't try to treat it as an 8 lane one....

unix.stackexchange.com/questions/208568/...ass-to-make-j-option

If you use the following string it should always sort its self out
make -j$(nproc)

or else in theory you could just load up a number like -j200 and let it do its thing with the build.

just probably a useful tip to all noobs to just use the make -j$(nproc) string

if its good enough for Linus Torvalds to run -j32 with his 32 core rig, it's good enough for me to run mine with just the right number of cores as to what I can afford + require.
linux.slashdot.org/story/20/05/25/020240...n-on-his-personal-pc
he was obviously running an 8 core previously and 32 core therefore being 4x faster (more lanes)
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10 Jan 2021 11:22 #194709 by tommylight
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Pretty sure you can use a bigger number as it will use what is available, using smaller numbers will make the compile time much longer.
The best way is to check and use the right number as mentioned above by Robert.

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13 Jan 2021 22:15 #195263 by arvidb
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The RAM use is approximately proportional to the number of jobs. I usually use a number of jobs equal to the number of cores plus one - this increases the chance that there are always a job for each core (a job can be waiting for IO for example and thus not be possible to schedule to the cpu).

But as far as I understand, the only harm in using "too many" jobs is if you don't have enough RAM. Swapping kills the performance for sure!

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16 Jan 2021 22:58 - 16 Jan 2021 22:58 #195588 by my1987toyota
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Well the lathe is on it's stand. It's far from it's cnc version but one step closer. After picking the thing up with an engine crane
I realized their needs to be better lifting points on the machine . The G0602 is exceedingly heavy near it's spindle.
I guess I will have to drill and tap some holes for a decent mounting point. Hopefully I will have better luck then Russtuff
drilling and tapping the castings . I do have a quick video of the Lathe on it's stand.

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17 Jan 2021 00:10 #195604 by rodw
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Buy a sling. If you sling them around the chuck and through the web (with a short piece of pipe through the webbing, you can pick a lathe up and then put it down again to balance the load. When you pick it up again, it will be balanced. Its a very handy trick my lathe supplier told me once.

Also, make sure you bolt the stand down to the floor before doing anything. I managed to tip a 280kg over as they are not well balanced on the stand. It could have killed me! I then built my own stand with removable wheels.

On Page 5 of this thread about my shed, the drama started!
www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/threads...s-aussie-shed.19885/

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17 Jan 2021 00:18 #195607 by andypugh
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Buy a sling. If you sling them around the chuck


This can be a terrible idea on some lathes. Some older lathes have screw-down bearing caps holding the spindle. They are not designed to lift the whole lathe.

The manual for my lathe has clear instructions how to lift it. I would imagine that most do.

(In the case of the Holbrook Minor it is two plates top and bottom of the bed near the headstock and an eye bolt.)

You can trim the balance by moving the carriage.
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24 Feb 2021 02:00 #199916 by my1987toyota
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Boy does time fly. I ended up having to use the lathe in it's original form to rebuild the Z axis on the cnc router
at work . Why the manufacture decided to use the bearings in the Z axis stepper motor to control the thrust load
is beyond me. Funny they put them in the X and Y axis. I fortunately got the Z axis finished today.
Now the Z axis has it's own dedicated thrust bearings
At the same time I had to upgrade and upsize my anodizing line.
I took a different approach to the lifting and moving problem on the lathe . I made a T-bar to hook to the lathe
and WOW does it make moving it around much easier. I will be getting back to CNCing the lathe in a few weeks
I have to finish up a few things on the anodizing line first.
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