Spindle encoder issues

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10 Apr 2012 11:13 #19087 by Peter_Cassar
Spindle encoder issues was created by Peter_Cassar
I've upgraded to linuxcnc 2.5 and returned to configure the spindle encoder. Looking at the HAL meter I don't see the spindle position reset to zero it just keeps incrementing the position values with each clock pulse on phase A. I've obviously got something wrong here see below. Even the spindle velocity looks dodgy, it shows a random value in the HAL meter. My encoder is a 100 slot disk with index (optical) G33 just gives me maximum velocity regardless of the spindle speed.

#### SPINDLE ENCODER

addf encoder.update-counters base-thread
addf encoder.capture-position servo-thread

setp encoder.0.position-scale 100.
setp encoder.0.counter-mode 1


net spindle-position encoder.0.position-interpolated => motion.spindle-revs
net spindle-velocity encoder.0.velocity => motion.spindle-speed-in
net spindle-index-enable encoder.0.index-enable <=> motion.spindle-index-enable

net spindle-index parport.0.pin-11-in => encoder.0.phase-Z
net spindle-pulse parport.0.pin-10-in => encoder.0.phase-A

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10 Apr 2012 12:49 #19089 by BigJohnT
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The example in the manual doesn't use position-interpolated...

linuxcnc.org/docview/html/examples/spind...d_spindle_feedback_a

John

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10 Apr 2012 13:29 #19090 by ArcEye
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Hi

My lathe with 120 hole optical disc has the below hal listing, which is ALMOST identical to yours;
setp encoder.0.position-scale 120
setp encoder.0.counter-mode 1
net spindle-position encoder.0.position-interpolated => motion.spindle-revs
net spindle-velocity encoder.0.velocity => motion.spindle-speed-in
net spindle-index-enable encoder.0.index-enable <=> motion.spindle-index-enable

net spindle-index parport.0.pin-11-in-not => encoder.0.phase-Z
net spindle-pulse parport.1.pin-10-in => encoder.0.phase-A

The difference is that I set phase-Z to pin-11-in-not because otherwise the BOB inverted the signal and had index permanently on and just off once per rev.

Is this what is happening to you?

regards

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10 Apr 2012 22:16 #19111 by Peter_Cassar
Replied by Peter_Cassar on topic Re:Spindle encoder issues
I don't think so . The HAL scope shows the index is low for most of the cycle. I did look at your config and got some ideas. I think I've missed setp encoder.0.index-enable 1 so the count isn't resetting after each 100 pulses. I'm going to make this change and try again.

Cheers,
Peter.

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11 Apr 2012 07:30 #19122 by cncbasher
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yea i'd say the they need reversing , they should be high , then drop low on pulse , what sensors are you using ? , if you have any other opto's in the signal path they will invert the signal

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11 Apr 2012 08:23 #19124 by Peter_Cassar
Replied by Peter_Cassar on topic Re:Spindle encoder issues
I'm using a homemade encoder but I'll try inverting the index signal.

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13 Apr 2012 09:46 #19165 by Peter_Cassar
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Hi All, I've tried inverting the index signal and it makes no difference. I'm not sure about the index-enable signal either. They way I understand the documentation is that the counts and position are supposed to be reset to 0 on the rising edge of the index signal. I don't see this happening at all. The counts and position keep incrementing as seen through the HAL meter. I've set up the HAL scope to monitor the signals and I see that the index and phase A signals are clean and regular.

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13 Apr 2012 12:53 #19173 by cncbasher
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please post your hal and ini file , and i'll take a look

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13 Apr 2012 13:09 #19174 by BigJohnT
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Peter_Cassar wrote:

Hi All, I've tried inverting the index signal and it makes no difference. I'm not sure about the index-enable signal either. They way I understand the documentation is that the counts and position are supposed to be reset to 0 on the rising edge of the index signal. I don't see this happening at all. The counts and position keep incrementing as seen through the HAL meter. I've set up the HAL scope to monitor the signals and I see that the index and phase A signals are clean and regular.


encoder.N.index-enable bit i/o

When true, counts and position are reset to zero on the next rising edge of Phase-Z. At the same time, index-enable is reset to zero to indicate that the rising edge has occurred.

Otherwise it is not reset.

linuxcnc.org/docview/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html

John

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13 Apr 2012 22:50 #19181 by Peter_Cassar
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File Attachment:

File Name: lathe.ini
File Size:2 KB

File Attachment:

File Name: lathe.ini
File Size:2 KB


I've attached my hal and ini files. I've checked things in the HAL components window and unlinked encoder.0.index-enable then executed setp encoder.0.index-enble and I can see the count and position reset to 0 but I don't know why it doesn't work when linked to spindle-index-enable and motion.spindle-index-enable using

net spindle-index-enable encoder.0.index-enable <=> motion.spindle-index-enable

also if I have

setp encoder.0.index-enable 1

in the HAL file I don't see this set to true in the HAL Meter as it always remains false even at start up.

Thanks for looking,
Peter.
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