converting a tos/intos fngj 40

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24 Sep 2024 13:25 - 27 Sep 2024 18:17 #310705 by FPM
Hi,I am owner of a fngj 40 milling machine, which i want to convert to linuxcnc.
The x and y axis are already converted to ballscrews.
The machine mounts a broken acu rite 2 axis cnc control
At first look the glass scales seem to be incremental with index.
The servos seem to be brushed analog servos.
Thats what i know at the moment.
Now to my questions :)
- the Z axis mounts a acme thread with a revolving nut, which makes a conversion to basscrew a bit complicated, so if anyone has an idea or already converted such a machine, i would apreciate some help.
- I would like to realize the control with a j3455 and mesa cards. I would like to reuse the analog servos, encoders and maybe add 2 step dir axis. And of course i would need 5/5 or so digital i/o. What would be a good choice?
- does anyone know if those acu rite millpwr servo drives can be reused with lcnc/mesa hardware?
I an pretty shure there will be some questions over the time, so thank you in advance.
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24 Sep 2024 16:48 #310719 by tommylight
Pictures of everything?

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27 Sep 2024 18:21 #310914 by FPM
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Thank you for the suggestion, i have edited the initial post and added some photos and changed everything to be a bit clearer about the machine as a whole. I will add some more photos as i am progressing with modifing it.

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28 Sep 2024 01:40 #310931 by ihavenofish
Oooh, nice. I always liked these.

For reference, these are basically the same is a MAHO, so all the same rules should apply.

Mine had the revolving nut for the z ram. But they way they did it was to have a normal ball screw nut mounted in a rotary mechanism. So check over what you have there already, it may be reusable with a normal ball screw.
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28 Sep 2024 01:44 - 28 Sep 2024 02:16 #310932 by ihavenofish
As to the electrical... Mesa 7i77 would be where you start for analogue with quadrature encoders, but I would have in the back of my head replacing the servos with new ones.
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28 Sep 2024 02:05 #310935 by tommylight
Just in case, for analog servos from Mesa, depending on availability :
7i97T
or
7i92TM + 7i77
or
7i92TM + 7i85 + 7i83
or
7i96S + 7i85 + 7i83
And if you end up needing more IO, grab a 7i84, it can be easily wired to any of the above combos
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28 Sep 2024 02:18 #310937 by ihavenofish
Thanks. I screwed up my numbering. :)
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28 Sep 2024 07:10 #310945 by FPM
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Are those encoder analog ones or digital ones?
I have attached photos of the servo drives, do they accept -+10v commands and do they need anything else ( except power of course )?
@ihavenofish: is there a reason for replacing the servos?
 
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28 Sep 2024 10:10 #310961 by andypugh
You might be able to get away with not converting the Z screw, as long as upwards cutting forces never exceed the mass of the table. Which is quite likely.

Though in the case of my Harrison (much smaller) I needed to convert because the torque required to move the trapezoidal screw was too high.
Another consideration is if you plan to use the horizontal spindle in CNC, as upwards forces are more likely then.

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28 Sep 2024 13:39 #310977 by ihavenofish
Z on these machines is the ram, it is a horizontal axis.

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