EMC2 running on Raspberry Pi?
19 Dec 2013 06:06 #41798
by ADBensi
Replied by ADBensi on topic EMC2 running on Raspberry Pi?
Hi,
Maybe Mungkie should know how do.. rpi_stepgen was created in this tread by he. Stepgen procedure works fine in my tests, the problem occurs with linuxcnc intervention.
I am put the video:
See the wave period varying and in some cases minor than 1 us.
Best Regards.
Maybe Mungkie should know how do.. rpi_stepgen was created in this tread by he. Stepgen procedure works fine in my tests, the problem occurs with linuxcnc intervention.
I am put the video:
See the wave period varying and in some cases minor than 1 us.
Best Regards.
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19 Dec 2013 21:12 #41829
by andypugh
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I am not sure that the RPi stepgen driver actually works. The code has never been submittted to the LinuxCNC project.
I think that the principle of operation is probably sound, so it is a pity that it never seems to have been finished and added to the code base.
I think that the principle of operation is probably sound, so it is a pity that it never seems to have been finished and added to the code base.
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20 Dec 2013 06:27 #41847
by mungkie
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Interesting that comments are here just as I am thinking about looking at this again over christmas.
I never seem to get time to actually catch up with this project as everytime I look things have changed, and I am waiting for some kernel improvements .
I am sure the stepgen driver I wrote will not get into the upcoming linuxcnc release, there are so many things that need to get done the major one being the RT_PREEMPT kernel. I have read that apparently both the rpi and RT_PREEMPT patches will become mainline for kernel 3.12, so I am waiting for that.
The current 3.12 and 3.10 kernels seem to have very poor RT performance, I don't really have the knowledge to trace the problems, but average cyclictest always seems around 60us but spikes of 2000 or even 5000us can easily be created by running midori.
I have a feeling that there maybe problems with DMA usage in the rpi kernel with busy waits, I really don't know and it seem more hardware will be using the DMA engine in future kernels and the new fbturbo X server also, so not sure how the DMA may conflict with that?.
I will definitly be releasing a full updated and debuggered driver at some point soon, but I feel like the target is still moving too fast for it to be worth putting in large amount of effort.
The driver on the SD image that was released is basically the same as the one shown on this post
linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/18-...y-pi?start=140#32939
I am hoping to add GPIO inputs and variable period settable at load time, I will release the code, but I am also considering creating a kickstarter project so I can buy myself some test equipment to work on the driver with.
I am also looking at cross platform gui options linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-...uture?start=10#41846
I imagine there could be problems with the driver if RT_PREEMPT has a latency greater than 2000us, and if there is cumulative latency then the code will need to implement some sort of catchup procedure.
It will all probably get done eventually, but this is just a hobby project so I am guessing it could take at least a year. If of course I realise its all not possible I will post details if anyone else wants to try and fix my mistakes
I never seem to get time to actually catch up with this project as everytime I look things have changed, and I am waiting for some kernel improvements .
I am sure the stepgen driver I wrote will not get into the upcoming linuxcnc release, there are so many things that need to get done the major one being the RT_PREEMPT kernel. I have read that apparently both the rpi and RT_PREEMPT patches will become mainline for kernel 3.12, so I am waiting for that.
The current 3.12 and 3.10 kernels seem to have very poor RT performance, I don't really have the knowledge to trace the problems, but average cyclictest always seems around 60us but spikes of 2000 or even 5000us can easily be created by running midori.
I have a feeling that there maybe problems with DMA usage in the rpi kernel with busy waits, I really don't know and it seem more hardware will be using the DMA engine in future kernels and the new fbturbo X server also, so not sure how the DMA may conflict with that?.
I will definitly be releasing a full updated and debuggered driver at some point soon, but I feel like the target is still moving too fast for it to be worth putting in large amount of effort.
The driver on the SD image that was released is basically the same as the one shown on this post
linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/18-...y-pi?start=140#32939
I am hoping to add GPIO inputs and variable period settable at load time, I will release the code, but I am also considering creating a kickstarter project so I can buy myself some test equipment to work on the driver with.
I am also looking at cross platform gui options linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-...uture?start=10#41846
I imagine there could be problems with the driver if RT_PREEMPT has a latency greater than 2000us, and if there is cumulative latency then the code will need to implement some sort of catchup procedure.
It will all probably get done eventually, but this is just a hobby project so I am guessing it could take at least a year. If of course I realise its all not possible I will post details if anyone else wants to try and fix my mistakes
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20 Dec 2013 07:16 - 20 Dec 2013 07:23 #41849
by ADBensi
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Hi!
The idea is very good, it's a shame not to have the expectations achieved.
I made a comparison between the codes, they should work. Basically what has been implemented is the BCM2835 DMA GPIO API. I did several tests with several options in the HAL and INI files, including maximum overclocking in the System.
That's when I did a test to just run the pass drive in the maximum speed (my engine only goes up to 270RPM) and then realized that the wave was stable. The problem occurs when the linuxcnc interferes and adjusts the frequencies.
So I think que there are no serious errors to correct, and I agree that the DMA resource must be reassessed beyond the RT Kernel in this version.
Mungkie, you can count me as a collaborator and testing
Best Regards,
The idea is very good, it's a shame not to have the expectations achieved.
I made a comparison between the codes, they should work. Basically what has been implemented is the BCM2835 DMA GPIO API. I did several tests with several options in the HAL and INI files, including maximum overclocking in the System.
That's when I did a test to just run the pass drive in the maximum speed (my engine only goes up to 270RPM) and then realized that the wave was stable. The problem occurs when the linuxcnc interferes and adjusts the frequencies.
So I think que there are no serious errors to correct, and I agree that the DMA resource must be reassessed beyond the RT Kernel in this version.
Mungkie, you can count me as a collaborator and testing
Best Regards,
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18 Jan 2014 07:02 #42948
by Roque7
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Hi, I'm using qemu simulator to test the following images
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RaspbianXenomaiBuild, rpi-lcnc.img, this can simulate well.
soundproofingforum.co.uk/rpi_linuxcnc/raspberrypilinuxcnc.htm, rpi linuxcnc.rar, can not simulate, the simulator starts but after a few line stops.
It is because this bad image? The simulator works well with others images.
Thank you.
I hope you understand me, do not speak English and use the google translator.
regards
Roque7
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RaspbianXenomaiBuild, rpi-lcnc.img, this can simulate well.
soundproofingforum.co.uk/rpi_linuxcnc/raspberrypilinuxcnc.htm, rpi linuxcnc.rar, can not simulate, the simulator starts but after a few line stops.
It is because this bad image? The simulator works well with others images.
Thank you.
I hope you understand me, do not speak English and use the google translator.
regards
Roque7
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18 Jan 2014 07:08 #42950
by andypugh
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the simulator starts but after a few line stops./quote]
It is a strange window manager, there is nothing at all to see until you press a button on the mouse (if it is the image I think it is).
Starting axis does take a very long time. Many minutes. Once it starts, it is OK.
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18 Jan 2014 17:25 #42962
by Roque7
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18 Jan 2014 23:29 #42972
by andypugh
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"Unable to mount root partition"
It looks like the disc image is corrupted. What does the SD card look like if you plug it into another PC, rather than try to boot from it?
It looks like the disc image is corrupted. What does the SD card look like if you plug it into another PC, rather than try to boot from it?
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27 Jan 2014 02:53 #43213
by billykid
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Hi
i can't download the prebuilt image on both link...
i can't download the prebuilt image on both link...
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16 Feb 2014 05:13 #43888
by michael.oosten
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Hi,
Just to play around with LinuxCNC and understand its workings, I'd like to test it on RPi driving two LEGO motors. However, I am running into a couple of problems.
I don't mind it not being accurate, so I started off with: wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RaspberryPi building LinuxCNC on standard Raspbian distro. However, I don't know how to get the correct HAL drivers for GPIO to load, so I'm stuck in simulation mode. How do I get the correct drivers to compile and load?
After reading the LinuxCNC message after compiling is done: I thought it wasn't possible to actually drive motors without a realtime kernel. So, I used wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RaspbianXenomaiBuild to actually build the RaspbianXenomai kernel. However, when I run latency-test, I get the following error: halcmd: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/xenomai/lib/libnative.so.3: invalid ELF header. And I'm stuck again. Not sure what's wrong. Google tells me it might be a crosscompile issue (I've used Wheezy in VirtualBox on my MacBookPro to stay close the RaspbianXenomaiBuild wiki page. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Michael
Just to play around with LinuxCNC and understand its workings, I'd like to test it on RPi driving two LEGO motors. However, I am running into a couple of problems.
I don't mind it not being accurate, so I started off with: wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RaspberryPi building LinuxCNC on standard Raspbian distro. However, I don't know how to get the correct HAL drivers for GPIO to load, so I'm stuck in simulation mode. How do I get the correct drivers to compile and load?
After reading the LinuxCNC message after compiling is done: I thought it wasn't possible to actually drive motors without a realtime kernel. So, I used wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RaspbianXenomaiBuild to actually build the RaspbianXenomai kernel. However, when I run latency-test, I get the following error: halcmd: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/xenomai/lib/libnative.so.3: invalid ELF header. And I'm stuck again. Not sure what's wrong. Google tells me it might be a crosscompile issue (I've used Wheezy in VirtualBox on my MacBookPro to stay close the RaspbianXenomaiBuild wiki page. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Michael
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