Lathe conversion from stock to CNC
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I have to admit the cost is looking a bit daunting! If I read the specs correctly, the Pico can drive 4 motors (with amps), take 4 encoders for the steppers 16 inputs and 8 outputs? Can I use some digital inputs for the spindle encoder, or is it better to use 2 axis encoder inputs?
I am happy to have various cards, or one card, depending on flexibility and cost.
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In that case then you just need one set of encoder inputs. All LinuxCNC "encoder" modules have three inputs, Phase A, Phase B and the Index.I have read somewhere that one can get higher accuracy for threading with dual encoders and, of cource a 1 PPR homing pulse. I would run one disc, with 2 sensors, perhaps LEDs to make sure they are out of phase.
If your disc has about 100 slots then you can use a parallel port for all IO.
if you go up to 1000 slots then you need a dedicated IO board such as the Pico or Mesa. Now that we know you are only talking about one encoder, the 7i76 looks like a good choice again.
My lathe has 100 slots, threading works nicely.
if you want to get started for minimal outlay one of the very cheap eBay kits might suit: (comes with a spare motor)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-Axis-TB6560-Driver-...NC-Kit-/251095203360
Or, slightly higher quality and more modular and only 2 axis
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cnc-2-Axis-Lathe-Cont...3-EMC2-/320946904472
That second set is a lot like the drivers I am using, except better and higher current. I don't think you would go far wrong with that.
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Thanks for the replies. I have now got a pulley for my motor and I have today bought a belt that actually fits the new setup. I need to gte down to programming my VFD to actually give me some torque where I need it, as I currently not start my lathe in its highest gearing.
Andy, you are tempting me sorely with your findings. I am especially looking at the second finding you posted, as it has stronger motors than the first and is still cheaper than what I think I can buy the various parts for. I cannot tell whether it includes a spindle encoder interface or not, I certainly do not think it would include motor encoder interfaces, but I am sure I can add those at a later stage if I want to maintain manual with DRO.
I take it you are quite sure I will get this setup running on Linux CNC?
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Now of course I cannot think of something to make!
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You could make me some oil cups for my Samson lathe LOL.
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I would be interested in the oil cups, something practical to do! (LOL) Would then have helped if I was on CNC.
Ended up making this, though I still need to finish the ends.
Cheers for now.
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Firstly having a home and origin points are confusing me a bit, is the home switch the home position and the origin a virtual point where the tool will start / end?
Would I be heading in the right direction if I am thinking of a home / origin where the Z axis would be backed out (Max soft + limit), the X axis at about the point where the tool holder about aligns with the jaws? My thinking is that would put the tool closest to a probable starting point, clearing max diameter for easier work on chuck / with tailstock.
Can one have a switch on the tailstock, as the carriage has limited movement if the tailstock is close, especially if the work piece is quite short?
I am thinking of fitting switches / sensors so long, maybe get the PC mounted... whilst I prep to get motors and drives.
I may try to source a diagram of a breakout one can build, maybe a PIC interface. My one PIC demo board has a quite capable PIC, with USB interface (I think)
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Also can one take something like a "gaming" joystick and assign the various buttons, hat switch... to various functions, or is a dedicated, switch based input better?
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I think you might be confusing X and Z. Z is generally the axis parallel to the spindle, so on a lathe the Z is the longitudinal feed and X is the cross-slide.Any comments on motors? I am thinking of getting a www.interinar.com/public_docs/23KM-K723-23V.pdf for the X axis and www.interinar.com/public_docs/23KM-K102-P1V.pdf for Z, though I have not had to deal with motor / load / voltages before, so am a bit in the dark here. I suppose if the motor is too weak one gears it down? Just have a slower machine?
On my lathe the Z motor is rated 3.5Nm and the X is 2.5Nm. I am not actually sure that those ratings were accurate, though.
Gamepads work fine, I am happy with mine.Also can one take something like a "gaming" joystick and assign the various buttons, hat switch... to various functions
wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Simple_Remote_Pendant
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