Mesa 6i25 pc will not boot

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02 Mar 2023 00:39 #265686 by tommylight
I can not pinpoint the exact models, but it worked for me on every Dell, Lenovo, HP, and Fujitsu i have tried those, i had 2 of 6i25, one is in daily use for several months on a Dell Optiplex 9020.
Same goes for 5i25, worked for me on the above mentioned PC's.
From motherboards, it worked on a Gigabyte X570 and an Asus B550-F.
I can test on MSI B550 Gaming Gen3, that strangely has a parallel port header and 6 PCI-E slots on a year 2021 MB!

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03 Mar 2023 14:33 #265779 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Mesa 6i25 pc will not boot

I have just thought of a possible option, could anyone who is using a 6i25 with no issues, help me with which bios and what version they are using, I can then try source another pc
 


Here is a cheap and rather UK-specific all-in-one solution.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165955792200

I have one of these as my LinuxCNC development / test PC fitted with a 6i25 and a parallel port card (and it has an onboard parallel port too). It has the best latency I have ever seen (3 figures with RTAI, around 1200 with preempt-rt)

So, it definitely works with a 6i25 and it definitely has acceptable latency. But be aware that it is not a touch-screen, if that is something you need.

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03 Mar 2023 22:31 #265807 by Dee436
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Hi thanks for that, I would be using a touchscreen or it would have been a good option. I have been told someone has an optiplex 9020 they are not using so hoping to get hold of that one.

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04 Mar 2023 12:14 #265840 by andypugh
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Hi thanks for that, I would be using a touchscreen or it would have been a good option. 

It's a completely standard motherboard inside, I guess you could harvest the parts. 
I think that the screen cover (schoolboy proof) is a bit too thick for stick-on touchscreen adaptor, there would be excessive parallax, but they do exist. 

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19 Mar 2023 19:16 #267098 by Dee436
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So, I ended up buying 2 RM one computers. 1 touchscreen i3 the other none touchscreen i5.

The i3 only has a blue pcie slot made for graphics and the 6i25 doesn’t work in that.
The i5 has the full range of pcie from x1 to x16 the 6i25 doesn’t work in any of them, just does the same as it’s always done from new which is to disable the graphic output to the monitor.

Guess my 6i25 is junk

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19 Mar 2023 19:56 #267101 by andypugh
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Guess my 6i25 is junk

If you want to send it to me (I think you are in the UK?) then I can try it in place of mine to be absolutely sure. 

Is the latency on the RM-ones good, at least?
 

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19 Mar 2023 21:56 #267107 by Dee436
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Not even got that far, they will not boot full stop with the card in so not taken it any further.
Think I am going to be back on Mach 3 as spending way too much time messing with this.

I am uk based so might be an idea to try the card in a know good environment.

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20 Mar 2023 12:33 #267141 by andypugh
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Not even got that far, they will not boot full stop with the card in so not taken it any further.
 

You can run the latency test without any hardware installled. And, in fact, without installing LinuxCNC if you boot from the a USB stick. 
(It's probable that the RM-One, as a school PC, will refuse to boot from the front-panel USB sockets by default)

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20 Mar 2023 12:44 #267143 by Dee436
Replied by Dee436 on topic Mesa 6i25 pc will not boot
Hi

Sorry, I didn’t word my reply in the best way .

What I should have said is that with the 6i25 in place it will not complete the post process so as a result I haven’t bothered about the performance of the pc at this point.

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20 Mar 2023 13:56 #267149 by Dee436
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On the off chance that I get my 6i25 working, or find a secondhand one, maybe even a 5i25, I did a quick latency test.

The i3 Asus

Servo thread max int 1010447 jitter 10447 last int 1000109
Base thread max int 47435 jitter 24285 last int 24922

The i5 intel

Servo thread max int 1006249 jitter 9372 last int 999990
Base thread max int 43672 jitter 18672 last Int 24944

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