Retrofiting Scm record 220

We have an older SCM Routomat machine with a NUM 1040 control we bought about 8yrs ago. It was brain dead when we bought it due to a dead battery. We were able to salvage a backup of the machine's parameters from the old HMI PC's harddrive to revive it. (After whacking it on a table a couple times to free up stuck platters.)

There isn't been a day since that I haven't wished we would not have been able to fix the old control, and that I would have converted it to Linuxcnc from the start.

Then again about 4 years ago we had some issues with the control, ended up having to send the control out to NUM for repair. My superiors at work decided that if it would cost less than $5000 we'd have it repaired, if more then we'd talk about letting me retrofit it. Wouldn't you know the bill came back at almost exactly $5000, and they decided to fix it. Ugh!

Tommylight,
www.controltech.com.tr/Documents/Others/...stro%20UG%20Iss4.pdf
Here is the manual.
You may be right about X axis, cables are still a mess since just wanted to fast check if axis work and didnt set machine in place properly.
Before buying, after looking a machine I have already read manuals and realize its must buy because was 90% sure 3axis will work with step/dir and price was less than if they sold only steel construction to junkyard for price of steel at that time. (I still dont get why they didnt do that)

UC300eth is bob from Uccnc, I went with it after reading they are very good, easy to setup and that Linux is much harder especially when things get complicated.
On the other hand Acorn was too expensive but probably best solution.

They told me only battery is an issue but still nobody else has buy it over long time, I would like to fix it and maybe sell it if its obsolete to work with anymore. Am sure someone will need it and as see are very expensive.
 

Todd Zuercher,

I read your comments, that was answer I was looking for and will not think about using it.
If you have some ideas of how to bring it to life I would appreciate it or if someone can fix it could pay for it, if can sell it in working condition for a 1000-2000€ would be very happy with it.

If the machine has a NUM1040 control, It could have either just that with it's own user interface pannel, or it could have a PC front end that runs some form of Windows (98, 2k, XP...). If it has a Windows PC for the user interface, then there is a high probability that the machine parameter files will be backed up and saved somewhere on the PC's harddrive. If the machine does not have a PC front end, and you don't have floppy disks with good backups of the machine parameters, and depending on how old the machine is, you might be out of luck trying to restore the old control.

SCM has moved on since using the NUM controls and I'm not sure there are too many people still working there, familiar enough with the older systems to help or if they will still have parameter backups for your machine. (This was nearly the case when we bought our machine that was only about 10 years old at that time.)

For Linux they say lots of programing is needed so I guess you have alot of experience, I was affraid that will stuck somewhere so went for a beginner option that should do the job with this machine.
You are right, when powering there is nothing on the screen and there is no additional pc.
I will try to connect other monitor if this one is bad but there is also FAIL lamp glowing on controler.
But doesnt matter if dont fix it, Im happy that I got machine for such price especially here where they value junk like it is pure gold.

I also have 3 smaller machines that have bought long time ago from a company in bankrupt, they were literally sitting outside in the rain for days covered in nylon and should have been thrown in the trash in a couple of days if I didnt came to pick them up.
I haven't assemble any of them yet because are all analog.
I think they are for very light machining and should be taken good care of and clean dry environment because they could be damaged.
These are KLG Alpha 01, used in the production of PCB boards.
I guess I could use them for making traces on PCB boards or some fine wood carving because these should be very precise.
Their axis are floating with air bearings on highly polished granite stone and 2 use 0.8kw air bearing atc spindle with up to 80000rpm, one had 100000rpm spindle but that one is very damaged by rust and not usable.

Setting up a machine control isn't the same as or require computer programming skills. It does require you to be thorough and precise, with a good ability to read and follow instructions, and a basic understanding of electronics. (More like an electrician than an engineer.) I really don't know a lick about computer programming.

Hello,
does anybody finished a retrofit on a SCM Record 220?

I have problems with the NUM1040 controller. This time i work on my first LinuxCNC retrofit on an other machine and i prepare to do this on the SCM Record 220, too.
My SCM Record 220 is from 1998 and there are Yaskawa SGDB AC-servo-drives inside.

It would be interesting if somebody could share his experience with this machine.

Best regards
michaeln

Be careful, maybe best way is to go with BOB that can accept all inputs and outputs machine have so you dont have to worry what to do with rest of them and accidentaly blow something up like I did with Frenic VFD. I didnt know there was 24v present on 2 pins and was not in manual so I accidentaly connected it to THR and fried something.
Yaskawa SGDB accep step/dir signal, I will use differential signal because my Uccnc bob accept them.
I can sent you manuals for SGDB, num1040, record 220 all machine assembly parts and for Frenic 5000 g9s if you dont have.
You can send me pictures of machine on mail too and I can help you with anything since am just starting to retrofit it too.

Tommy Light,

Well from what I understood back then from others is that programing is also needed.
Will probably make some smaller machines in future and someday even 5 axis so its good to know if they can accept multi axis machining with RTCP.