Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions

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05 Jan 2022 22:20 - 05 Jan 2022 22:21 #230904 by PCW
Could you add a plot of the commanded position?
Does the PID component have index-enable connected?

What is supposed to happen on homing to index is that the when index is
detected, the encoder position is set to 0.0 and index-enable is set false.
LinuxCNC watches the index-enable signal, and when it has a high to low transition,
it sets the commanded position to 0.0 to match the feedback position.

In addition, the PID component watches index enable so that any derivative
or feed-forward term calculations ignore the position step in its commanded and
feedback inputs.
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25 Apr 2022 19:56 #241246 by andypugh
After recent discussion on the mailing list, can I repeat this question? I would like to see where the problem is.

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25 Apr 2022 21:10 #241252 by EW_CNC
it looks like pid.1.index-enable is false before getting to the index.

 

are the pid connections wrong in the hal file? 

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i'll do some more testing.
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25 Apr 2022 21:37 #241254 by EW_CNC
more testing: consistently pid.1.index-enable goes false, but pid.1.command does not set to 0.

 
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26 Apr 2022 00:09 #241257 by andypugh
I have had a re-think, and this version of press.comp might work better. Or, at least, differently.

I am a bit concerned that the behaviour of the brake axis under homing will now be different, though.

if this doesn't work, then try setting the axis home positions to zero ( the press.axis.1.home-offset 50 line) just to see what changes.

reminder: sudo halcompile --install press.comp
 
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28 Apr 2022 01:22 #241424 by EW_CNC
Ok, I did some testing.
Backstop axis: If I starting homing with the home switch true, It moves at search velocity towards positive.
When it moves off home switch true and at the first index it does a very rapid jerk and proceeds with homing and completes homing. (Homing in the opposite direction resulted in a fast rapid move toward positive end of travel, not good!)
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Also this last change causes the position after homing to be 0 right at the index, not at the point of index + home offset.

if this doesn't work, then try setting the axis home positions to zero ( the press.axis.1.home-offset 50 line) just to see what changes.

If I set it to zero homing doesn't work.
I'll keep doing more testing on my end to see if I can give you more info.
Thanks,
EW
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02 Sep 2022 23:11 #251065 by slopez2022
Hello Rod:

This is Salvador Lopez

I saw your message about the icon controller

Can I talk about it with you a little more?

Regards

Salvador

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03 Sep 2022 04:24 #251078 by rodw
Sure. You can send a message to me here. www.vmn.com.au/contact

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08 Apr 2023 05:07 #268586 by santy
Hello Guys this would help me a lot as i have a old press brake with a dead old controller. Everything else is good. I know where all the pwm outputs and encoders go as well as signals for the main board, so i can deal with all pwm and IO, because i got the wiring diagrams and paperwork from the manufacturer. 

I have just  tried installing this as a simulation but didn’t succeed as i got an error when running ./bender

how would it work to run it as an actual machine, with a 7i92tm + 7i76e?

i can create a new config with this boards using pnc conf, then modify it as the ones you’ve sent right?

what i don’t understand is what does .comp do to my hal file and if i need to have done anything previously to run the installstion.


 
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08 Apr 2023 12:46 #268605 by EW_CNC
Can you show what error your getting?

I have not been using the simulation since my setup uses imperial measurements instead of metric.

You will need to have the press.com file installed.
From a terminal you will need to install press.comp.
sudo halcompile --install press.comp

Make sure the press .comp file is in your home directory, or in the terminal, first CD to the directory the file is in before compiling it.

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