Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
05 Jan 2022 22:20 - 05 Jan 2022 22:21 #230904
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
Could you add a plot of the commanded position?
Does the PID component have index-enable connected?
What is supposed to happen on homing to index is that the when index is
detected, the encoder position is set to 0.0 and index-enable is set false.
LinuxCNC watches the index-enable signal, and when it has a high to low transition,
it sets the commanded position to 0.0 to match the feedback position.
In addition, the PID component watches index enable so that any derivative
or feed-forward term calculations ignore the position step in its commanded and
feedback inputs.
Does the PID component have index-enable connected?
What is supposed to happen on homing to index is that the when index is
detected, the encoder position is set to 0.0 and index-enable is set false.
LinuxCNC watches the index-enable signal, and when it has a high to low transition,
it sets the commanded position to 0.0 to match the feedback position.
In addition, the PID component watches index enable so that any derivative
or feed-forward term calculations ignore the position step in its commanded and
feedback inputs.
Last edit: 05 Jan 2022 22:21 by PCW.
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25 Apr 2022 19:56 #241246
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
After recent discussion on the mailing list, can I repeat this question? I would like to see where the problem is.
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25 Apr 2022 21:10 #241252
by EW_CNC
Replied by EW_CNC on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
it looks like pid.1.index-enable is false before getting to the index.
are the pid connections wrong in the hal file?
i'll do some more testing.
are the pid connections wrong in the hal file?
i'll do some more testing.
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25 Apr 2022 21:37 #241254
by EW_CNC
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26 Apr 2022 00:09 #241257
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
I have had a re-think, and this version of press.comp might work better. Or, at least, differently.
I am a bit concerned that the behaviour of the brake axis under homing will now be different, though.
if this doesn't work, then try setting the axis home positions to zero ( the press.axis.1.home-offset 50 line) just to see what changes.
reminder: sudo halcompile --install press.comp
I am a bit concerned that the behaviour of the brake axis under homing will now be different, though.
if this doesn't work, then try setting the axis home positions to zero ( the press.axis.1.home-offset 50 line) just to see what changes.
reminder: sudo halcompile --install press.comp
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28 Apr 2022 01:22 #241424
by EW_CNC
Replied by EW_CNC on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
Ok, I did some testing.
Backstop axis: If I starting homing with the home switch true, It moves at search velocity towards positive.
When it moves off home switch true and at the first index it does a very rapid jerk and proceeds with homing and completes homing. (Homing in the opposite direction resulted in a fast rapid move toward positive end of travel, not good!)
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Also this last change causes the position after homing to be 0 right at the index, not at the point of index + home offset.
I'll keep doing more testing on my end to see if I can give you more info.
Thanks,
EW
Backstop axis: If I starting homing with the home switch true, It moves at search velocity towards positive.
When it moves off home switch true and at the first index it does a very rapid jerk and proceeds with homing and completes homing. (Homing in the opposite direction resulted in a fast rapid move toward positive end of travel, not good!)
Screen Shot:
Also this last change causes the position after homing to be 0 right at the index, not at the point of index + home offset.
If I set it to zero homing doesn't work.if this doesn't work, then try setting the axis home positions to zero ( the press.axis.1.home-offset 50 line) just to see what changes.
I'll keep doing more testing on my end to see if I can give you more info.
Thanks,
EW
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02 Sep 2022 23:11 #251065
by slopez2022
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Hello Rod:
This is Salvador Lopez
I saw your message about the icon controller
Can I talk about it with you a little more?
Regards
Salvador
This is Salvador Lopez
I saw your message about the icon controller
Can I talk about it with you a little more?
Regards
Salvador
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03 Sep 2022 04:24 #251078
by rodw
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Sure. You can send a message to me here. www.vmn.com.au/contact
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08 Apr 2023 05:07 #268586
by santy
Replied by santy on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
Hello Guys this would help me a lot as i have a old press brake with a dead old controller. Everything else is good. I know where all the pwm outputs and encoders go as well as signals for the main board, so i can deal with all pwm and IO, because i got the wiring diagrams and paperwork from the manufacturer.
I have just tried installing this as a simulation but didn’t succeed as i got an error when running ./bender
how would it work to run it as an actual machine, with a 7i92tm + 7i76e?
i can create a new config with this boards using pnc conf, then modify it as the ones you’ve sent right?
what i don’t understand is what does .comp do to my hal file and if i need to have done anything previously to run the installstion.
I have just tried installing this as a simulation but didn’t succeed as i got an error when running ./bender
how would it work to run it as an actual machine, with a 7i92tm + 7i76e?
i can create a new config with this boards using pnc conf, then modify it as the ones you’ve sent right?
what i don’t understand is what does .comp do to my hal file and if i need to have done anything previously to run the installstion.
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08 Apr 2023 12:46 #268605
by EW_CNC
Replied by EW_CNC on topic Pressbrake CNC Control Setup Questions
Can you show what error your getting?
I have not been using the simulation since my setup uses imperial measurements instead of metric.
You will need to have the press.com file installed.
From a terminal you will need to install press.comp.
Make sure the press .comp file is in your home directory, or in the terminal, first CD to the directory the file is in before compiling it.
I have not been using the simulation since my setup uses imperial measurements instead of metric.
You will need to have the press.com file installed.
From a terminal you will need to install press.comp.
sudo halcompile --install press.comp
Make sure the press .comp file is in your home directory, or in the terminal, first CD to the directory the file is in before compiling it.
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