Mach3 machine, some questions.
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10 Jan 2025 01:09 - 10 Jan 2025 01:09 #318595
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I'm gunna blame it on Goblins.
I've had my fair share of their input today.
I've had my fair share of their input today.
Last edit: 10 Jan 2025 01:09 by Cant do this anymore bye all. Reason: Globlin attack
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10 Jan 2025 15:35 #318638
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Means the same to me! Trash means, it goes out the door. Separating things is very common here and it is easy to bring old circuit boards and such to the recycling companies. .-)
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10 Jan 2025 15:49 #318641
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Mach3 can obviously do a lot that I do not even immagine, same as Linux CNC.
Mach3 seems to be a dead end (obsolete hardware, obsolete software)
The Mesa Card is definitely better documented and I bought fairly cheap DM860 stepper drivers that seem to work (good enough for who its for).
This week I threw some of the equipment on the workbench and started messing with pncconfig.
Four motors are running The spindle drive is still an issue. (that ist next up)
Mach3 seems to be a dead end (obsolete hardware, obsolete software)
The Mesa Card is definitely better documented and I bought fairly cheap DM860 stepper drivers that seem to work (good enough for who its for).
This week I threw some of the equipment on the workbench and started messing with pncconfig.
Four motors are running The spindle drive is still an issue. (that ist next up)
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10 Jan 2025 16:16 #318646
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You say LinuxCNC is way way better than Mach 3.
How so?
How so?
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10 Jan 2025 16:25 #318647
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VFD reminds me of A Series of Unfortunate Events
I am in the process of repairing a CNC machine where the spindle and VFD were replaced by the previous user with a router.
It's not that great.
Keep the spindle if you can, so long as it is well-made.
I wish split-phase inducion moters could be used as a CNC spindle, but they are so heavy (30lbs for 1/3HP), it would not really work out well.
I am in the process of repairing a CNC machine where the spindle and VFD were replaced by the previous user with a router.
It's not that great.
Keep the spindle if you can, so long as it is well-made.
I wish split-phase inducion moters could be used as a CNC spindle, but they are so heavy (30lbs for 1/3HP), it would not really work out well.
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10 Jan 2025 16:51 #318652
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Mach3 = extremely limited
LinuxCNC = extremely versatile, like the T1000 from The Terminator, it changes shape to fit almost everything as far as machines go.
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In short:You say LinuxCNC is way way better than Mach 3.
How so?
Mach3 = extremely limited
LinuxCNC = extremely versatile, like the T1000 from The Terminator, it changes shape to fit almost everything as far as machines go.
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10 Jan 2025 19:13 - 10 Jan 2025 19:25 #318656
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The spindle driver is some weird (undocumented) BLDC unit with a motor using hall sensor feedback.
This benchtop mill has the tool spinde parallel to the motor and a short 1:1 toothed belt transmission. Amplifier works I can spin it up connecting 5V to signal wires.
How to connect wires, power supply and HAL components is another story.
Probably similar to a frequency inverter.
I am using the old transformer, which includes a AC to DC rectifier board.
This benchtop mill has the tool spinde parallel to the motor and a short 1:1 toothed belt transmission. Amplifier works I can spin it up connecting 5V to signal wires.
How to connect wires, power supply and HAL components is another story.
Probably similar to a frequency inverter.
I am using the old transformer, which includes a AC to DC rectifier board.
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10 Jan 2025 19:52 - 10 Jan 2025 19:55 #318658
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As far as I could research, Mach3 is not able to do fully closed loop operation with feedback between motor axis and rotary or linear encoders.You say LinuxCNC is way way better than Mach 3.
How so?
- feed rate based on spindle power (cutter breakage detection)
- EDM with reverse movements or slow down based on electrical values
- a hobbing machine that slows down workpiece spindle and tool spindle in case something reaches the limits.
- Turning excenters or augers on a lathe
- cam shaft grinding
These are examples I can think of. Things that Mach3 could not provide, according to my understanding of the available information.
Of course those items go bejond the average DIY user and will not be easy to do. Not easy to do in any system, unless available as turnkey in exchange for $$$
Linux CNC seems to be in the gap between, "very basic good enough" and "just pay money to one of the usual suspects"
I see a lot of misconception that Linux CNC ist "Parallelport technology" for 3-axis open loop stepper machines. Which is actually only the lower end of the spectrum.
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10 Jan 2025 22:23 #318667
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This machine fills a shed.
Many people use Linuxcnc to retrofit big commercial machines because of its flexibility and extensibility.
Here the user had hit the limits of using classic ladder and wrote a custom Linuxcnc C component to do this. A week earlier, he knew nothing about programming and is now loving it!
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A work in progress by a user in NZ but try commanding a pallet changer on a horizontal 5 axis machines like this in Mach3.You say LinuxCNC is way way better than Mach 3.
How so?
This machine fills a shed.
Many people use Linuxcnc to retrofit big commercial machines because of its flexibility and extensibility.
Here the user had hit the limits of using classic ladder and wrote a custom Linuxcnc C component to do this. A week earlier, he knew nothing about programming and is now loving it!
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