Age of the website and forum
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18 Jan 2025 14:34 #319280
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There are 3 active forums at the same time, and as far as i can tell, they are all replicated (meaning the content is copied from one to others automatically):
The one we are using
forum.linuxcnc.org
The one on the same server but in a different folder
www.forum.linuxcnc.org
And another one with no domain name, just the IP address with no secure connection active
162.243.45.186
That is also on the Digital Ocean servers
www.whois.com/whois/162.243.45.186
The first two are for sure on the same virtual servers, so updating one impacts the other, the third might or might not also be on the same virtual server, there is no way of knowing from my point of view.
The one we are using
forum.linuxcnc.org
The one on the same server but in a different folder
www.forum.linuxcnc.org
And another one with no domain name, just the IP address with no secure connection active
162.243.45.186
That is also on the Digital Ocean servers
www.whois.com/whois/162.243.45.186
The first two are for sure on the same virtual servers, so updating one impacts the other, the third might or might not also be on the same virtual server, there is no way of knowing from my point of view.
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18 Jan 2025 17:47 #319298
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@cornholio: I was more interested in the structures behind it, which I don't know as an outsider.
The Kunena Forum can take over the complete user structure of Joomla with all rights etc., which is quite complex, at least that's how I understood it on the Kunena Forum website.
Of course, you can also create and operate the forum separately from the website (with additional rights management etc.).
That's a silly question, sure. Is the server environment created by yourself?
Or is the server environment managed?
Notes:
1) If we have installed our own server that runs on Ubuntu, the server may need to be updated.
1.1) Ask the person who installed the server!
1.2) Do nothing without a backup!!!
-- when the server is cleared and done --
2) Check which PHP version is installed
2.1) Update if necessary
3) Check which database is installed (probably MySQL, which version)
3.1) Update if necessary
4) Check which domains are available and where they are forwarded to.
4.1) List of all domains with internal/external destination folder
4.2) Check all start folders of the domains ‘.htaccess’ whether redirects exist here www without www https forced etc. ...
5) Check the user administration of the forum to see if it is connected to Joomla.
5.1) If no, much easier, if yes, think again!
6) Create new folder for new forum
7) Install new forum incl. new database etc.
8) Possibly check with the forum manufacturer Kunena whether user data, posts and images from the old forum can be exported/imported to the new forum.
etc.
But the beginning is very important, because this is the basis for everything else and when I look at what @JT has provided us with as a layman, I get the impression that it is not a finished server (which a service provider takes care of), but that the server was set up itself, which then also has to be maintained!
My site is accessible with and without www, but there is only one page.
All visitors who come to my site without WWW are redirected to the WWW page on the server side!
Google and Co. don't want duplicates either and usually remove such things from the INDEX! which would be a great pity!
I have the impression that I have not yet fully understood how the whole thing is structured and that we are talking past each other in the wrong places.
Ich schätze mal, das liegt oft auch am Problem der Begrifflichkeiten und auch sicher an meinem Englisch, was von DeepL kommt
The Kunena Forum can take over the complete user structure of Joomla with all rights etc., which is quite complex, at least that's how I understood it on the Kunena Forum website.
Of course, you can also create and operate the forum separately from the website (with additional rights management etc.).
The current OS
That's a silly question, sure. Is the server environment created by yourself?
Or is the server environment managed?
Notes:
1) If we have installed our own server that runs on Ubuntu, the server may need to be updated.
1.1) Ask the person who installed the server!
1.2) Do nothing without a backup!!!
-- when the server is cleared and done --
2) Check which PHP version is installed
2.1) Update if necessary
3) Check which database is installed (probably MySQL, which version)
3.1) Update if necessary
4) Check which domains are available and where they are forwarded to.
4.1) List of all domains with internal/external destination folder
4.2) Check all start folders of the domains ‘.htaccess’ whether redirects exist here www without www https forced etc. ...
5) Check the user administration of the forum to see if it is connected to Joomla.
5.1) If no, much easier, if yes, think again!
6) Create new folder for new forum
7) Install new forum incl. new database etc.
8) Possibly check with the forum manufacturer Kunena whether user data, posts and images from the old forum can be exported/imported to the new forum.
etc.
But the beginning is very important, because this is the basis for everything else and when I look at what @JT has provided us with as a layman, I get the impression that it is not a finished server (which a service provider takes care of), but that the server was set up itself, which then also has to be maintained!
I hope not!There are 3 active forums at the same time,
..
forum.linuxcnc.org
...
www.forum.linuxcnc.org
...
162.243.45.186
My site is accessible with and without www, but there is only one page.
All visitors who come to my site without WWW are redirected to the WWW page on the server side!
Google and Co. don't want duplicates either and usually remove such things from the INDEX! which would be a great pity!
I have the impression that I have not yet fully understood how the whole thing is structured and that we are talking past each other in the wrong places.
Ich schätze mal, das liegt oft auch am Problem der Begrifflichkeiten und auch sicher an meinem Englisch, was von DeepL kommt
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18 Jan 2025 20:09 #319310
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from your root home folder, try:
Then explore the seperate folders listed.
Note my knowledge is very dated ad things could have changed
Replied by rodw on topic Age of the website and forum
There would be a seperate user. It should have its own home folder, the same as you do on your Linuxcnc PC.This is the root directory listing
root@forum:~# ls access.log do-dns-mirror make-plot PHPMailer-5.2.14 update-plot bin error.log monitor-memory plug_reCAPTCHA.rc1.zip v5.2.14.zip cb_recaptchav2.zip expire-session.sh pflogsumm-1.1.1 requests.gnuplot count-requests flo.sql pflogsumm-1.1.1.tar.gz SHOW data letsencrypt PHPMailer simp_le
from your root home folder, try:
cd ..
ls
Then explore the seperate folders listed.
Note my knowledge is very dated ad things could have changed
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19 Jan 2025 12:52 #319365
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That person is no longer part of this community.
The current OS
That's a silly question, sure. Is the server environment created by yourself?
Or is the server environment managed?
Notes:
1) If we have installed our own server that runs on Ubuntu, the server may need to be updated.
1.1) Ask the person who installed the server!
1.2) Do nothing without a backup!!!
JT
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19 Jan 2025 13:42 #319371
by JT
So I can find the joomla and kunena directories
JT
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I actually forgot that logging in as root didn't put me in the actual root directory.
[/code]from your root home folder, try: [code]cd .. ls
root@forum:~# cd ..
root@forum:/# ls
bin dev home initrd.img.old lib64 media opt root sbin swapfile2 tmp var vmlinuz.old
boot etc initrd.img lib lost+found mnt proc run srv sys usr vmlinuz
So I can find the joomla and kunena directories
root@forum:/# cd var
root@forum:/var# ls
backups cache crash lib local lock log mail opt run spool tmp www
root@forum:/var# cd www
root@forum:/var/www# ls
html
root@forum:/var/www# cd html
root@forum:/var/www/html# ls
administrator cli htaccess.txt index.php libraries media README.txt templates
bin components images language LICENSE.txt modules robots.txt tmp
cache configuration.php includes layouts logs plugins robots.txt.dist web.config.txt
root@forum:/var/www/html# cd libraries
root@forum:/var/www/html/libraries# ls
CBLib cms fof idna_convert import.php joomla legacy phpass phputf8 vendor
classmap.php cms.php fof40 import.legacy.php index.html kunena loader.php php-encryption src
JT
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19 Jan 2025 14:46 #319372
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@rodw knows a lot more about it, even if it's been a while for him.
I have created a few Joomla pages, but nothing more .
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Ok, that doesn't make it any easier.That person is no longer part of this community.
JT
@rodw knows a lot more about it, even if it's been a while for him.
I have created a few Joomla pages, but nothing more .
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20 Jan 2025 02:46 #319434
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But not enough to be authoritve sorry.
You can see configuration.php is in /var/www/html
This should be the root folder of your web server.
If you edit (or cat) that, you will see something like this.
www.inmotionhosting.com/support/edu/joom...4/configuration-php/
Don't share it here!
I'm not sure what will be found in yourjoom;a and kuena folders
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@rodw knows a lot more about it, even if it's been a while for him.
I have created a few Joomla pages, but nothing more .
But not enough to be authoritve sorry.
You can see configuration.php is in /var/www/html
This should be the root folder of your web server.
If you edit (or cat) that, you will see something like this.
www.inmotionhosting.com/support/edu/joom...4/configuration-php/
Don't share it here!
I'm not sure what will be found in yourjoom;a and kuena folders
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