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18 Oct 2012 10:29 #25410 by BigJohnT
For photos just upload them here... I don't know what happened to make them disappear.

For the 5i25 7i77 combo (order the combo so you get the cable to connect them) you need power for the 201's (up to 80vdc) and power for the field I/O (12-24vdc). Does the cncmasters power section have more than one voltage output? All you really need from the cncmasters is the power supply and the 201's. It will be more straight forward to just wire the 201's directly.

The basic wiring is something like this:

stepper power (up to 80vdc) => 201's
7i77 step and direction signals => 201's
201's stepper drive outputs => stepper motors
12-24vdc => 7i77 field power
limit and home switches => 7i77 inputs

Look to see if the last two terminals on the 201's had a current set resistor on the cncmasters board.

Also I would mount the 201's to the aluminum plate when you remove the board to act as a heat sink.

John

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20 Oct 2012 16:51 #25491 by customcutter
There are resistors mounted on the last 2 pins on each, marked 220uf 100v.

I've been thinking that the 201's would mount onto the new 7i76 daughter board. I guess that is incorrect? From what I'm understanding now, the 201's will mount flat on the aluminum plate, to act as a "heat sink". I will be running individual wires from the 7i76 to the 201's to control step/direction? Or is there a cable available for this? Does the wiring need to be "shielded" or only for servos, I have steppers?

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20 Oct 2012 19:07 #25496 by BigJohnT
That sounds like a capacitor not a resistor. The resistor if it is an axial wire one will have color bands, dunno what a surface mount one looks like.

Yea you will run wires from the 7i77 to the 201's. I usually use old cables from proximity switches and things like that just to keep it neat and they usually have 3 or 4 22 gauge wires in them. The only thing that needs shielded wire that I know of is encoders.

John

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20 Oct 2012 23:09 - 20 Oct 2012 23:11 #25514 by customcutter
John:

Is 22-24 gauge wire heavy enough for 1200-1600 in/oz motors?

I finally took some better pics. (I also have to send them to my wife's phone, so that she can send to my e-mail.)

A pic of the capacitor that I thought might be a resistor




thanks,
Ken
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20 Oct 2012 23:14 #25515 by customcutter
Pic of the 201 with the cover off. I've seen post on the net where cncmasters has denied that it is a 201. (probably just trying to protect their hardware/software, IMO)

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20 Oct 2012 23:20 - 21 Oct 2012 02:11 #25516 by customcutter
A better pic of the "power" board. There's another smaller transformer, probably to drop down to 12-24v. But I don't see a bridge rectifier anywhere to convert to DC.



Bridge rectifier is not really a problem. I'm sure I can pick one up if I don't have one around somewhere.
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21 Oct 2012 00:14 #25518 by customcutter
Pic of the transformer. When I looked it up it is 48v, 192va. Is this big enough to run 2-1500in/oz and 1 1200in/oz steppers, in a "hobby" situation?



I guess I can run it "temporarily" until it fails.

thanks,
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21 Oct 2012 10:55 #25535 by BigJohnT
The 22-24 gauge wire is only for the step and direction wires.

The steppers have wires already correct?

I would use at least 16 gauge for the power wires.

That cap is on the power connectors not the current set which is on the other end of the connector. I wonder why they have that?

This should be the link to your manual on the 201, the revision should be printed on the circuit board. Might have to take the cover off of one to see it.

www.geckodrive.com/gecko/images/cms_file...0REV-16%20MANUAL.pdf

John

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21 Oct 2012 10:57 #25536 by BigJohnT
customcutter wrote:

Pic of the 201 with the cover off. I've seen post on the net where cncmasters has denied that it is a 201. (probably just trying to protect their hardware/software, IMO)


That is a 201 down to the last detail...

John

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21 Oct 2012 11:01 #25537 by BigJohnT
customcutter wrote:

A better pic of the "power" board. There's another smaller transformer, probably to drop down to 12-24v. But I don't see a bridge rectifier anywhere to convert to DC.



Bridge rectifier is not really a problem. I'm sure I can pick one up if I don't have one around somewhere.


I have several power supplies like that laying around and they use some other method that I'm sure if Peter reads this he can explain. I'd use it till it dies. Looks like the terminal block with 3 reds and 1 yellow wire are the DC side.

John

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