Index Homing odd offset

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06 Nov 2015 01:06 #64843 by PCW
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uggh, the plot when stopped indicates the drive doesnt move for about 100 ms of motion command from linuxcnc
is there a deadband in the drive? If so it needs to be turned off

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06 Nov 2015 07:30 #64864 by OT-CNC
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For some reason I can't get motion when jogging with the arrows as I'm trying to hit the Force button on hal scope :S
This worked yesterday. What changed???

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06 Nov 2015 08:22 - 06 Nov 2015 08:24 #64865 by OT-CNC
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This is all I was able to capture today.



This is with P10, 50ipm- if i remember correctly
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Last edit: 06 Nov 2015 08:24 by OT-CNC. Reason: - if i remember correctly

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06 Nov 2015 18:25 #64881 by andypugh
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I have lost track of what is going on here.

You can set Halscope to trigger automatically when the velocity-cmd goes positive. No need to press buttons.

The axis doesn't seem to be moving at all. f-error rises linearly and the velocity hovers around zero.

If FF1 is set to 1.0 or thereabouts, why are you so convinced that that P needs to be 10x or 50x larger? I would expect it to be smaller.
What is the smallest non-zero PGain that you have tried?

How accurate is the tracking of velocity with P=0, I=0, D=0?

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06 Nov 2015 22:02 #64897 by OT-CNC
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Sorry Andy, I was trying to add the f-error trace and capture more data. The Screenshot is all I was able to get since hitting the force button stopped motion.
Thanks for the hint on automatic trigger.

I tried your suggestion of P=.050, P=.5 then moved my way up to P=10 and got frustrated with the force button and don't have any captured data.

I was able to find a range where the ballscrew didn't seem to dither and that was below P=10. PCW suggested to increase P and then back off at the point of oscillation.
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To see how accurate tracking is, I will try again with PID all at 0.

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07 Nov 2015 00:47 #64919 by Todd Zuercher
In Halscope, change your trigger from position-cmd to velocity-cmd (channel 4 to channel 1). It is the button on the bottom right corner of the screen. Then it should trace automatically instead of you having to manually pressing the force button.

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01 Jun 2019 14:04 #135567 by Marcking
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Hello Guys, have this topic a solution? I have the same problem according I can read here.
Thank you!

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03 Jun 2019 06:35 #135699 by andypugh
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Can you describe your actual problem and symptoms? This thread is 4 years old, and we have all forgotten what it was about :-)

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03 Jun 2019 14:00 #135752 by OT-CNC
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I did not solve the problem. I ended up using my drives in step/dir mode without reading in the encoder and using homing switches instead of switch and index as I was unsuccessful in tuning it. Machine has been working great.
Are you just having issues with index homing? Are you running an analog servo system or are you trying to drive it with step/dir?

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05 Jun 2019 01:07 #135895 by Marcking
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Hello OT-CNC, I have solved the problem thanks to PCW who told me to solve the following error playing with P.I.D. parameters and that made the trick, I don't know if this problem was the same.
Yes this machine is running servo with step/dir signals, the problem was the odd homing and also was imposible to set the DRO to zero when touching off any of the axes.
Thank you!

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