How old of a PC still makes sense to use?

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8 years 6 months ago #109276 by cncn00b2018
Ok it does boot from USB, just unlike DVD and floppy, it's not shown in BIOS setup if not present ;)
Another DVD drive didn't read the image at all.
I did use the checksum, btw, ws ok.

So it boots from USB, I selected the first option in the menu, now there's a text screen displaying lots of messages, repeating that there's e.g. "Buffer I/O error on device sdb". Fail safe mode does the same.
So it can't read from the drive anymore, although it got to the menu at least?
What do I do with that info?

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8 years 6 months ago #109277 by cncn00b2018
So now I just tried the option to install the thing with graphical mode.
After I selected the language, it took ages trying to detect CDROM drive. There is a DVDR installed and hey, it even booted" a little bit" from it as told above, but thaat didn't find it.
So it told me I could manually select the next steps of the installation.
Any they all are pparently based on getting stuff from CDROM.
But I booted from USB, what does it want with CDR? This doesn't work.
Now I'm really confused...

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8 years 6 months ago #109309 by tommylight
Do you have another working PC?
You just have a very old motherboard with old BIOS that has some known problems booting from USB, especially if it has any chipset other than NVIDIA.
Take the hard drive out from it and put it on another computer, preferably made after 2006, boot and install it normally, put the drive back on the computer that does not boot from USB and it should boot without problems.

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8 years 6 months ago #109347 by cncn00b2018
Heh! Sounds too obvious, but as my linux experience is superficial and windows prior to w10 would be confused by such a drastic hardware change that this step didn't even occur to me as an option.

Although it could pose somewhat of a challenge, as the drive is some 160GB *IDE* drive (is that too slow for the overall task per se, or ok? It's what I had left over ;)), and I'd need another PC with IDE (need to look, not sure).

What I would have tried is to buy new DVDs, install winXP * on the machine in question , burn linuxCNC boot image from USB stick with that very PC's own DVD-writer, and hope that it could boot properly from its own produce ;-)
Your suggested way sounds like a higher chance of success, although also slightly messier, involving re-gutting another PC. Let's see.

Btw., the mainboard is this: www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/ALiveNF6G-VSTA/
And then I have some cheap Radeon 9550, let's see how well that works. Probably better than with on-board gfx & shared memory (-> delays?).

Anway, thanks for your hints. And sorry if any frustration leaks from my comments, it's sometimes hard to hide ;-) I didn't expect this stuff to act up at this stage already.
I still don't understand why the setup is looking for "cdrom" at all, though.

By the way what is the PWM rate that can realistically be done via this LPT real-time kernel scheme? I saw somewhere 50kHz at most, but not sure I remember that or the context properly. The motors which came with my chinese 6040 CNC were spec'd at 200 kHz I believe. While I have some basic electronics knowledge, I'm not quite a motor expert, I don't understand whether this is a disadvantage or problem.

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* wanted that anyway as dual boot. After actually assembling the China CNC 6040, I can check the basic functrions using Mach3 demo, I guess. Best before I can no longer return stuff in case of problems, I have this lying around for a couple weeks already and not much time ;-)

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8 years 6 months ago #109362 by cncn00b2018
I meanwihle also checked the longer checksum of both, also matches. Burnt linuxCNC image the slowest possible with a different, seldom used burner. Same effect. It boots from DVD, loads the menu, which than immediately freezes.
Using that same DVD drive, I just installed winXP from a burnt CD, no probs. The dvd drive is not totally broken at least for CD mode. I can't get the IDE dvd burner to work that I still had, so I guess the last straw is installing from another PC which has an IDE controller.

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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #109407 by tommylight
Go into BIOS and load setup or bios defaults, find and change these settings :
enable UDMA mode to yes
LBA or large block addressing to enabled
gate A20 to FAST
disable serial and modem
disable power saving options
disable FDD or floppy drive
disable FDD controller
Last edit: 8 years 6 months ago by tommylight. Reason: added more info

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