Relay to turn on spindle

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06 Jan 2019 18:39 #123617 by Leon82
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Thanks.

This is the diagram. The motor wires go direct to the drum switch.



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07 Jan 2019 00:30 #123657 by JohnnyCNC
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On my X3 I used a double pole relay (Automation Direct QL2N1-D24 10A@250 VAC). One pole was used to break the connection from terminal 3 on the on/off switch to the motor. The other pole was used to open the connection between K1 on the board and terminal 1 on the on/off switch. This is so that if the motor faults or an E-Stop is activate the CNC control will need to stop the spindle (open the relay) so that the safety will be reset and then can turn the spindle back on when relay to proceed. I used this setup for about 6 months with no problems until I upgraded to a 1.8kw servo motor for my spindle motor.
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07 Jan 2019 01:28 #123661 by Leon82
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On my X3 I used a double pole relay (Automation Direct QL2N1-D24 10A@250 VAC). One pole was used to break the connection from terminal 3 on the on/off switch to the motor. The other pole was used to open the connection between K1 on the board and terminal 1 on the on/off switch. This is so that if the motor faults or an E-Stop is activate the CNC control will need to stop the spindle (open the relay) so that the safety will be reset and then can turn the spindle back on when relay to proceed. I used this setup for about 6 months with no problems until I upgraded to a 1.8kw servo motor for my spindle motor.

Thanks, I'll look into that

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07 Jan 2019 03:23 #123666 by Leon82
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On my X3 I used a double pole relay (Automation Direct QL2N1-D24 10A@250 VAC). One pole was used to break the connection from terminal 3 on the on/off switch to the motor. The other pole was used to open the connection between K1 on the board and terminal 1 on the on/off switch. This is so that if the motor faults or an E-Stop is activate the CNC control will need to stop the spindle (open the relay) so that the safety will be reset and then can turn the spindle back on when relay to proceed. I used this setup for about 6 months with no problems until I upgraded to a 1.8kw servo motor for my spindle motor.


Is that relay just for the interlock?

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07 Jan 2019 03:36 #123667 by JohnnyCNC
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No. One pole of the relay disconnects the motor. It is in series with the manual on/off switch. The other pole is in series with the connection which goes from the on/off switch to the K1 on the board.
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07 Jan 2019 04:12 - 07 Jan 2019 04:14 #123669 by Leon82
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No. One pole of the relay disconnects the motor. It is in series with the manual on/off switch. The other pole is in series with the connection which goes from the on/off switch to the K1 on the board.


I think I understand.
So I would sent 24 volt to that relay( it says 24v coil), and close the contacts thru my Bob spindle relay to actuate that relay.

And it would complete the circuit to the motor and k1? And since they are both closed the fault saftey would still work.
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07 Jan 2019 04:28 #123670 by JohnnyCNC
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Yes. If the motor faults or the E-Stop I activated you must open the connection between K1 and K0 to reset the fault. By having K1 and the motor run the same switch/relay you have to turn off the power to the motor to do the reset. You wouldn't want the motor to start as soon as you reset the E-Stop switch.

You could probably find a 12 volt version of that relay if you need it to be rather than 24volt.
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07 Jan 2019 10:59 #123693 by Leon82
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Yes. If the motor faults or the E-Stop I activated you must open the connection between K1 and K0 to reset the fault. By having K1 and the motor run the same switch/relay you have to turn off the power to the motor to do the reset. You wouldn't want the motor to start as soon as you reset the E-Stop switch.

You could probably find a 12 volt version of that relay if you need it to be rather than 24volt.


Thanks. I looked quick, they have a 120volt coil one. That would probably be the easiest and my Bob relay can handle 10 amps ac.

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20 Jan 2019 05:47 #124467 by Leon82
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I finally got this wired up with the dpdt relay

It works good and the interlock works.

But the relay in my breakout board is kind of dumb.

I hooked it up to the normally open side and as soon as I turned the power on the mill the spindle started. After I booted into linux cnc the relay opened and the spindle stopped. The normally open side is closed untill there is power. And I don't see any jumpers on it anywhere

If I hit the CW button it starts and stops when I hit the stop button.

So I am going to have to put a switch, or I can run the low voltage wire thru my estop on the open when latched side.yhis will break the connection as I estop it when it's off

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20 Jan 2019 16:16 #124479 by OT-CNC
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I hooked it up to the normally open side and as soon as I turned the power on the mill the spindle started. After I booted into linux cnc the relay opened and the spindle stopped. The normally open side is closed untill there is power. And I don't see any jumpers on it anywhere


That sounds like you wired it normally closed? Try the other terminal on that BOB. Maybe it's mis-labeled. Is this your board?? I would check with a volt meter to confirm the state of that relay when everything is powered off.

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