Ethercat Servo spindle orient example required

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07 Mar 2020 11:38 #159399 by andypugh
Both P and I should increase stiffness when in position.
But VFDs tend to not output anything for very small inputs, so you might need some inverse deadband, or to modify the VFD parameters.

I think most commercial toolchange systems have a positive lock for final alignment.

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07 Mar 2020 11:39 #159400 by andypugh
You could look at using the lincurve hal component to have much higher P and I gains when the position error is small.
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07 Mar 2020 12:16 - 07 Mar 2020 12:25 #159405 by snujcnc
THANKS
i will try

I think most commercial toolchange systems have a positive lock for final alignment.

>my machine is mill-turn center so my required sequence is
1-stop spindle with M19 R0 command
2-engage c-axis servo gear with main spindle gear
3-so my spindle become c axis
4-to memories c axis position i must do c-home before i disengage c-axis from spindle

and

in my machine case there is no brake or any pin on main spindle

(original machine built with siemens series 8 )

that's why i need to stop spindle in exact same position with some amount of torque after M19 R0
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07 Mar 2020 12:32 #159406 by andypugh
Are you using the original Siemens VFD?

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07 Mar 2020 12:39 #159407 by snujcnc
no i remove all old stuff from machine

currently i am using(NEW) KEB F5 combivert vfd with ethercat option card for spindle control

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07 Mar 2020 12:56 #159409 by andypugh
It is possible that the original spindle drive was more suitable for position mode.

But try looking at things like the VFD minimum frequency.
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07 Mar 2020 13:05 - 07 Mar 2020 13:21 #159410 by snujcnc
i know that

original spindle drive is very powerful but i want to use ethercat so i remove drive

but motor is original

i try to install feedback encoder card to keb vfd then i can improve performance (need lot of time to do this work )

motor start moving after 3 rpm command bellow 3 rpm motor rotate --stop--rotate so exact position arrival is difficult for me

(after 4 rpm motor rotate like servo motor very smooth with lot of power)
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07 Mar 2020 13:27 #159412 by andypugh
Look at the inverse-deadband Hal component to force the output to be zero or at least 4tpm. (Or do the same thing with a bit more finesse with lincurve)

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07 Mar 2020 13:30 #159413 by snujcnc
thanks
i am going to try on machine

update you result with some videos and pictures

thanks again

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