Esab Ultrarex UXD-P2000 Upgrade Project

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03 Jun 2020 20:34 - 04 Jun 2020 12:38 #170001 by Esaber
Good.
So final list

- PC and monitor => OK
- Mesa 5i25 PCI => OK
5I25 Superport FPGA based PCI Anything I/O card
eusurplus.com/index.php?route=product/pr...ct_id=74&search=5I25
- Mesa 7i77 => OK
MESA 7i77 Analog servo interface plus I/O daughtercard - sourcing output version
eusurplus.com/index.php?route=product/pr...ct_id=51&search=7i77
- THCAD => OK
THCAD+10
eusurplus.com/index.php?route=product/pr..._id=114&search=thcad
- 2 resistors of 1 Mega Ohm resistance
- 4X small 24V relays
24v-DC-Coil-General-purpose-Relays-8-Pin-with-DIN-Sockets-DPDT-5A-MY2NJ
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24v-DC-Coil-General-p...A-MY2NJ/163150100577
- Motor => OK
Stepper motor Sanyo Denki 103H7823-1710
www.mechapro.de/shop/Stepper-motors/56mm...244.html?language=en
- Microstep Power Stage => OK
LAM DS3044: Programmable 5.6A microstep power stage
www.mechapro.de/shop/Stepper-motor-drive...243.html?language=en
- USB programmer with software = Ok
LAM UDP30: USB programmer with software
www.mechapro.de/shop/Stepper-motor-drive...151.html?language=en
- CAT6 cable => OK
- DVM = > OK
- DB25 connector => OK

What do you think?
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03 Jun 2020 20:54 #170003 by tommylight

Esaber wrote: What do you think?

Pliers, isolating tape, and lots and lots of coffee ! :)
That looks OK so far.
And do try to find the machine schematics, that will save you a lot of time, like a lot. Schematics are in a big book weighing at over 5KG, so if you do find it, do not drop it on your feet, you'll be limping for a week ! :)

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03 Jun 2020 20:58 #170005 by rodw
I would mount your mesa boards on DIN rail (7i96, THCAD-10, THCAD-5 shown). Mesa make a bracket but I suspect eusurplus make their own. The THCADs are mounted on a DIN rail mount I fabricated with some standoffs.



Mesa's best kept secret is the little strip of bus bar shown here to the right of the 7i96. 2 banks x 12 common connectors but eusurplus might not stock them. Saves a lot of space. 1 bank for+24v and 1 bank for -24v field power. Failing that a good supply of din rail mount connectors and common strips to tie banks of connectors together similar to whats shown.

Also the RS components 888-6843 relay is a nice compact (6mm wide) din rail opto isolated relay. You have to buy in packs of 5. I use them instead of the panel relays now. I'll let you find the right web site for your country but here is Australia
au.rs-online.com/web/p/solid-state-relays/8886843/?sra=pstk
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03 Jun 2020 21:23 #170014 by tommylight
Well Rod, since you went there, here is what i found a few days back:


Very nice and tidy, for gnd, +5V, +24V, and +whatever V for the drives. Under 15 Euro a piece, IIRC.
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03 Jun 2020 21:42 #170019 by Esaber

tommylight wrote:

Esaber wrote: What do you think?

Pliers, isolating tape, and lots and lots of coffee ! :)
That looks OK so far.
And do try to find the machine schematics, that will save you a lot of time, like a lot. Schematics are in a big book weighing at over 5KG, so if you do find it, do not drop it on your feet, you'll be limping for a week ! :)


Not sure we have that book. I sent an email to esab germany asking for help. Let's see how they teat me.

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03 Jun 2020 21:45 #170020 by Esaber

rodw wrote: I would mount your mesa boards on DIN rail (7i96, THCAD-10, THCAD-5 shown). Mesa make a bracket but I suspect eusurplus make their own. The THCADs are mounted on a DIN rail mount I fabricated with some standoffs.

Mesa's best kept secret is the little strip of bus bar shown here to the right of the 7i96. 2 banks x 12 common connectors but eusurplus might not stock them. Saves a lot of space. 1 bank for+24v and 1 bank for -24v field power. Failing that a good supply of din rail mount connectors and common strips to tie banks of connectors together similar to whats shown.

Also the RS components 888-6843 relay is a nice compact (6mm wide) din rail opto isolated relay. You have to buy in packs of 5. I use them instead of the panel relays now. I'll let you find the right web site for your country but here is Australia
au.rs-online.com/web/p/solid-state-relays/8886843/?sra=pstk


Nice and clean setup.
I will get the din rail and ask eusurplus about the bus bar.
I'm getting those RS relays too.
I understand I need 4 of them.
Will be adding them to the list

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03 Jun 2020 22:00 - 03 Jun 2020 22:01 #170024 by Esaber
Updated list:

- PC and monitor => OK
- Mesa 5i25 PCI => OK
5I25 Superport FPGA based PCI Anything I/O card
store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=55
- Mesa 7i77 => OK
MESA 7i77 Analog servo interface plus I/O daughtercard - sourcing output version
eusurplus.com/index.php?route=product/pr...ct_id=51&search=7i77
- THCAD => OK
THCAD+10
eusurplus.com/index.php?route=product/pr..._id=114&search=thcad
- 2 resistors of 1 Mega Ohm resistance
- Motor => OK
Stepper motor Sanyo Denki 103H7823-1710
www.mechapro.de/shop/Stepper-motors/56mm...244.html?language=en
- Microstep Power Stage => OK
LAM DS3044: Programmable 5.6A microstep power stage
www.mechapro.de/shop/Stepper-motor-drive...243.html?language=en
- USB programmer with software = Ok
LAM UDP30: USB programmer with software
www.mechapro.de/shop/Stepper-motor-drive...151.html?language=en
- CAT6 cable => OK
- DVM = > OK
- DB25 connector => OK
- 4 Din Rail Opto isolated relay => OK (68€) (these guys are expensive over here ! Will look for a cheaper alternative)
fr.rs-online.com/web/p/relais-statiques/8886843/
- Pliers => OK
- isolating tape => OK
- And lots and lots of coffee :-)
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03 Jun 2020 22:02 - 03 Jun 2020 22:03 #170025 by Esaber
Do the Mesa cards and THCAD come with din rail support brackets?
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03 Jun 2020 22:12 #170030 by tommylight

Esaber wrote: Do the Mesa cards and THCAD come with din rail support brackets?

Nope,
eusurplus.com/index.php?route=product/pr...=59_66&product_id=56
Also the plates are not expensive and they are very strong, i do have one for 7i76 left that was sent by mistake instead of 7i77, and another one with the 7i77 mounted on it, you can throw that thing from the 5th floor and it would survive! Also have a lot of the raisers.
I like the DIN rail more as i can mount everything on it, wire it, test it, and then just bolt 2 screws on the control box.
Better ask the friend that is making the case/panel what would be easier for him to mount.

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03 Jun 2020 22:19 #170034 by Clive S

Esaber wrote: Do the Mesa cards and THCAD come with din rail support brackets?


Or make one:
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