Deceleration distance too long

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26 May 2021 13:53 - 26 May 2021 13:54 #210348 by roland
the machine is configured with MAX_ACCELERATION = 500mm/s².
I move with G38.2 F3000 to the probe switch.
At F3000 (=50mm/s) expected deceleration distance is 2.5 mm (V²/(2*a)).

But the braking distance is about 5.1 mm.
This corresponds to a deceleration of 250mm/s².
So the machine brakes with half the deceleration. (250 mm/s² instead of 500 mm/s²)

What is the reason for this?

LinuxCNC is 2.9 master
Last edit: 26 May 2021 13:54 by roland.

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26 May 2021 15:03 #210353 by arvidb
I think posting your .INI file might help.

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26 May 2021 15:18 #210355 by roland
I agree with you :)

ini attached.
It's about the Z axis

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26 May 2021 17:44 #210367 by roland
When moving with the jog buttons the acceleration is correct






When moving in MDI or program the acceleration is half




Hmmm... bug or feature?
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26 May 2021 17:50 #210368 by BigJohnT
X and Y max acceleration is 200 so if this is a coordinated move including either one of those axes then it makes sense, no axis will exceed it's settings. If it is a rotary IIRC that can affect the total acceleration.

JT

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26 May 2021 18:04 #210371 by roland
There is no rotary axis. Just a simple move like
G1 Z-50 F3000
The same behavior is in X axis: Jog acceleration is ok (200); MDI acceleration is half (100)


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26 May 2021 19:40 #210386 by andypugh
Is any acceleration allocated to "external offsets"?

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26 May 2021 19:43 #210387 by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Deceleration distance too long
I get the same response:

MDI at 1/2 programmed accel limits
GCode (G0 G1 at least) and jogging at full speed
Not setup to try G38

2.8.1 and 2.9 are identical in this respect

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26 May 2021 19:47 #210389 by andypugh
What happens with feed-override maxed out? I am wondering if it is that overhead.

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26 May 2021 20:04 #210390 by PCW
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The acceleration seems to be independent of the feed rate

I suspect the cause of the acceleration difference is that unplanned
moves are treated differently by the TP

Doesn't jogging use an independent "planner"?

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