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06 Apr 2022 19:26 #239465
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I do sometimes, but not daily. Lack of mouse support is a nuisance. But the vi I know is pretty awful if I can remember right...I use nano, daily!
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06 Apr 2022 19:32 - 06 Apr 2022 19:34 #239467
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Rod,
I use vi because it's always there; no install. And no icon to click. And type two letters--which I've considered shrinking with an alias.
However, I am not proud of it. I have gedit defined as my editor in LinuxCNC, so I'm not opposed to using sane tools, but it's like I caught a vi-rus.
> But the vi I know is pretty awful if I can remember right...
Ahhh, yes. That's the calling card.
I use vi because it's always there; no install. And no icon to click. And type two letters--which I've considered shrinking with an alias.
However, I am not proud of it. I have gedit defined as my editor in LinuxCNC, so I'm not opposed to using sane tools, but it's like I caught a vi-rus.
> But the vi I know is pretty awful if I can remember right...
Ahhh, yes. That's the calling card.
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07 Apr 2022 17:50 #239565
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I have booted into Debian 10 from the drive out of the old controller computer and run LinuxCNC 2.8 from it.
(I had tried this before but couldn't get Lxcnc to come up. This proved to be a syntax anomaly in the .ini file remaining after its auto-conversion from 2.7. .INI lines like "HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 # 2nd" are treated as errors in 2.8 although they once worked.)
I edited 2.8's .hal file to change the parport reset to 5000 and its .ini file to change the BASE_PERIOD to 50000.
I noticed that the max velocity at LinuxCNC startup was listed as 240 ipm, which is what I remembered from the previous setup.
There was no need to run G-code to test because the machine stalled when attempting to jog the Y-axis at 240 ipm.
I believe this particular machine, Dell Optiplex 780, just won't cut LinuxCNC's mustard.
(I had tried this before but couldn't get Lxcnc to come up. This proved to be a syntax anomaly in the .ini file remaining after its auto-conversion from 2.7. .INI lines like "HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 # 2nd" are treated as errors in 2.8 although they once worked.)
I edited 2.8's .hal file to change the parport reset to 5000 and its .ini file to change the BASE_PERIOD to 50000.
I noticed that the max velocity at LinuxCNC startup was listed as 240 ipm, which is what I remembered from the previous setup.
There was no need to run G-code to test because the machine stalled when attempting to jog the Y-axis at 240 ipm.
I believe this particular machine, Dell Optiplex 780, just won't cut LinuxCNC's mustard.
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07 Apr 2022 20:18 #239579
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OK, again just to be sure, install the RTAI kernel now since you have the official ISO running, that will bring the latency to useful levels on the Dell.
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07 Apr 2022 21:00 #239587
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I just checked, and what I have is running a pre-empt RT 4.19 kernel.
I don't really know how to install the RTAI kernel. Is it a matter of patching what's installed?
I don't really know how to install the RTAI kernel. Is it a matter of patching what's installed?
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07 Apr 2022 21:43 #239593
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I already posted about this, you should have tried this instead of wasting time with ...If you are using the 2.8.2 official ISO, give RTAI a try, might surprise you:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/getting-start...#cha:Installing-RTAI
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08 Apr 2022 13:31 #239663
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Tommy,
Remember the prototype text-based "Adventure Game?"
"You are in a maze of twisty passages, all of which look alike."
Off I go to try that passage. (Thanks for doing my work for me and re-pasting the link; and repeating yourself.)
Remember the prototype text-based "Adventure Game?"
"You are in a maze of twisty passages, all of which look alike."
Off I go to try that passage. (Thanks for doing my work for me and re-pasting the link; and repeating yourself.)
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08 Apr 2022 15:51 #239677
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Strange as i recall a lot, but definitely the most played game in the younger days was "Monty on the run" on a Commodore 16.
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No!Remember the prototype text-based "Adventure Game?"
"You are in a maze of twisty passages, all of which look alike."
Strange as i recall a lot, but definitely the most played game in the younger days was "Monty on the run" on a Commodore 16.
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09 Apr 2022 22:32 #239784
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I sometimes get GUI lockup if I leave the dongle for the wireless keyboard plugged in. If i look at dmesg from a remote PC I can see that USB connect/disconnect messages are flooding the system.
I am not saying that your problem is caused by mu keyboard, but it could be something similar.
I am not saying that your problem is caused by mu keyboard, but it could be something similar.
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11 Apr 2022 19:46 #239965
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(I misremembered the name anyway; it was called
"Colossal Cave"
and it was played on pre-Commodore "mini-computers," like the PDP-11. I encountered it first on a VAX and then on a later port to the Zenith Z-100.)
Fear kept me dragging my feet on doing the RTAI install. I am something of a fool however, as I quickly re-learned when finally forcing myself to the task. One of the most trivial things I've done wrt to LinuxCNC.
Having followed the steps (Sec. 7.2) and rebooted, the 4.19.195-rtai kernel was not offered on the grub menu.
I located it on the boot partition associated with the version of Debian 10 I'd originally installed the RTAI on, but have not been successful getting it to be one of the menu choices. In trying to get it recognized (by update-grub) I managed to muck up the system so the original Debian 10 won't boot either. (I am something of a fool...)
I still have a booting version of Linux Mint which I'm using to try to straighten out the booting.
(Debian's boot error says "file <old-vmlinuz-rt-amd64> not found" and that I have to "load the kernel first".)
When I learn how to edit a grub entry to add the paths to the rtai files, I'm sure it will boot again, after which I'll try to run update-grub again.
Fear kept me dragging my feet on doing the RTAI install. I am something of a fool however, as I quickly re-learned when finally forcing myself to the task. One of the most trivial things I've done wrt to LinuxCNC.
Having followed the steps (Sec. 7.2) and rebooted, the 4.19.195-rtai kernel was not offered on the grub menu.
I located it on the boot partition associated with the version of Debian 10 I'd originally installed the RTAI on, but have not been successful getting it to be one of the menu choices. In trying to get it recognized (by update-grub) I managed to muck up the system so the original Debian 10 won't boot either. (I am something of a fool...)
I still have a booting version of Linux Mint which I'm using to try to straighten out the booting.
(Debian's boot error says "file <old-vmlinuz-rt-amd64> not found" and that I have to "load the kernel first".)
When I learn how to edit a grub entry to add the paths to the rtai files, I'm sure it will boot again, after which I'll try to run update-grub again.
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