moog animatics smart motor - need contract help to configure

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4 years 4 months ago #245901 by cruger-
Hi forum,
I am trying to get an expert linuxcnc person to help me use these servo/drives working through linuxcnc ethernet connected to a small pc.
Moog sells a software to run these motors in windows and after using on a 30 day demo I realize this interface is not for me.
I have factory cables, power supply a shunt and some molex connectors ready to go. The servos are new old stock.
Moog said they can support me with the software but I am more interested to use Linuxcnc.
I have the pdf manual for this version though the actual specific model is not listed but shows similar and Moog says they are a close likeness.
I do not expect this help for free. Contact me through email or reply here if you would like to discuss this work.
Thank You 
 

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4 years 4 months ago #245911 by tommylight
There is pinout for 4 connectors, what do the remaining 2 connectors do?
If the only control type is the listed RS232/RS485, that limits their use a lot.
Most probably they can be made to work with RS485, but since that is not real time, machine control is not recommended due to lag in response.
Using them as a spindle should work OK, though might need jumping some hoops.
Also, i avoid using serial for anything, so better wait for someone with more experience to reply.

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4 years 4 months ago #245920 by tommylight
Hmmmm just had another look at the pictures as i was on the phone when i replied earlier, the encoder IO connector does say step/user IO and dir/user IO so that makes things very simple.
Use the software to enable those 2 pins as step/dir, they might be set as any of those 3 options mentioned, then you can use a simple parallel port to control them, or a Mesa 7i96 or 7i76E for ethernet, or ... plenty of options.

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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #245946 by cruger-
    Thanks for the help. I was leaning to the mesa card. Just started filling my mind with linuxcnc again recently and realized all these people using it have come along way and it looks like the best control for many things. If I could afford fanuc I would just do that.I have 4 motors intended to use on 3-axis mill but bought the motors as a lot. The moog software (smnc) allows you to daisy chain the motors with echo enabled. The 4th motor is capable of being used as a spindle and can rigid tap. The software has no backlash comp but is otherwise nice. I am not married to RS232- moog does this thru one usb to RS232 out from Windows. Kind of funny how they can send all the signals through the same line.I am interested to get some help on this and willing to pay for the time it takes to digest moog command structure. Again thanks for your help on this project.
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4 years 4 months ago #245962 by tommylight
If you can afford it, go for the Mesa 7i95, it is a step/dir controller with encoder feedback and since your drives have encoder outputs it will make for a nice machine with two control loops. Overkill? :)
Even if you get the 7i76E, you can later add a 7i85 or 7i85S (i still do not know which one, one is stepper the other is encoder, i am referring to the encoder one) and again have two closed loops, one in the drives and the other in LinuxCNC.
Some more questions:
-did the drives/motors come as a set?
-do you know if they are tuned for those motors?
-since you can use the software to control them, did you check if the pins on the encoder connector are set to step/dir?
In general very easy to have them working, if they are a set most probably they are tuned already, chances are they are set for step/dir already, so some wiring and a quick config is all it takes.
P.S.
You keep mentioning payment, this is an open source software forum, we all help here as much as we can for free, so no need to insist on it, mainly because we do not have time to think how to spend it ! :)
But if you still feel the urge to buy us a beer or two, i can provide the crypto addresses ! :)
P.S. on the P.S.
You will get the same help anyway through whatsapp or other "face to face" methods, it just might take a bit longer through the forum.
The crypto thing is a joke.
Yes i do use crypto.

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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #245980 by cruger-
 Serrate is the overkill name of this project. If fact when you check my machine design you will understand more how that term is present. I am behind in that I have only dry tested the software so far. No wires are connected but I am getting closer. This all started because I bought a new in the box surplus Thomson linear slide years ago for $150. then designed and built a machine around that. I am lucky to have worked in cadcam for years and having access to machines to build my overkill frame. the machine is designed to take apart and ship and with an adjustable table in case one needs to cut thick stock. X23'- Y21'- Z4.4' . I plan to upload the model to the web so anyone can make this after testing. The design can be scaled and modified for different surplus or new slides and is modular. Moog motors are fitting but may be a little weak for cutting steel. I am also sourcing two 3Nm closed loop stepper/servos for X-Y and a single 2Nm for Z from Stepperonline. I will get the 7i95 like you said and start reading. You have been a big help and now I think there is hope for these motors. I am sending an image of the machine but the spindle mount has changed to 43mm type. I also like crypto and have seen that progress much like linuxcnc. I use skype but I have only that for face to face. That is my main phone now. Thanks again for your input and yes I would like to help with the beer run.
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