moog animatics smart motor - need contract help to configure

Hi forum,
I am trying to get an expert linuxcnc person to help me use these servo/drives working through linuxcnc ethernet connected to a small pc.
Moog sells a software to run these motors in windows and after using on a 30 day demo I realize this interface is not for me.
I have factory cables, power supply a shunt and some molex connectors ready to go. The servos are new old stock.
Moog said they can support me with the software but I am more interested to use Linuxcnc.
I have the pdf manual for this version though the actual specific model is not listed but shows similar and Moog says they are a close likeness.
I do not expect this help for free. Contact me through email or reply here if you would like to discuss this work.
Thank You 
 

    Thanks for the help. I was leaning to the mesa card. Just started filling my mind with linuxcnc again recently and realized all these people using it have come along way and it looks like the best control for many things. If I could afford fanuc I would just do that.I have 4 motors intended to use on 3-axis mill but bought the motors as a lot. The moog software (smnc) allows you to daisy chain the motors with echo enabled. The 4th motor is capable of being used as a spindle and can rigid tap. The software has no backlash comp but is otherwise nice. I am not married to RS232- moog does this thru one usb to RS232 out from Windows. Kind of funny how they can send all the signals through the same line.I am interested to get some help on this and willing to pay for the time it takes to digest moog command structure. Again thanks for your help on this project.

 Serrate is the overkill name of this project. If fact when you check my machine design you will understand more how that term is present. I am behind in that I have only dry tested the software so far. No wires are connected but I am getting closer. This all started because I bought a new in the box surplus Thomson linear slide years ago for $150. then designed and built a machine around that. I am lucky to have worked in cadcam for years and having access to machines to build my overkill frame. the machine is designed to take apart and ship and with an adjustable table in case one needs to cut thick stock. X23'- Y21'- Z4.4' . I plan to upload the model to the web so anyone can make this after testing. The design can be scaled and modified for different surplus or new slides and is modular. Moog motors are fitting but may be a little weak for cutting steel. I am also sourcing two 3Nm closed loop stepper/servos for X-Y and a single 2Nm for Z from Stepperonline. I will get the 7i95 like you said and start reading. You have been a big help and now I think there is hope for these motors. I am sending an image of the machine but the spindle mount has changed to 43mm type. I also like crypto and have seen that progress much like linuxcnc. I use skype but I have only that for face to face. That is my main phone now. Thanks again for your input and yes I would like to help with the beer run.

By the way, those "Moog" motors are actually Parker SM23xx series servos. 

Parker sells quite a few servos to other companies for rebranding.  They may have Moog-specific interfaces, but I'm pretty sure the guts, and maybe the encoders, are Parkers.

EDIT - updated speculation:

I think those Moogs are, essentially, Parker servos with iBE-series integrated controllers attached.  Probably custom wound, too, since they look like the slotless SM-series but the Moog page indicates they have "15 slots."

I've attached the iBE flyer.  Check out page 7; the power and I/O pinout & diagram look suspiciously like the Moog page, don't they?

I've also got the iBE user manual, but its too big to attach (even zipped).  Feel free to go to 
www.parkermotion.com/products/Rotary_Ser...30_32_80_567_29.html

And scroll to the bottom for the iBE series.  All the manuals and stuff are there.

More importantly, the Parker iWare software is available for download... may be able to talk to the Moog servos through that.

And another bit of unsolicited advice...  Just get rid of those servos and get something else.

Those iBE/Moog things weren't really designed for step & direction CNC control.  More like point-to-point automation/animatronics installations (think factory machine or Hollywood props).

The onboard controller make installation easier (no big separate drive to mount) for an OEM, but it makes repurposing them rather challenging.

For starters...consider the cabling.  The non-standard DB7 connector handles both 48vdc bus power and the RS232 signals.  Which means you'd need a shielded inner cable for the RS232 conductors, and you'd wind up with some odd-ball Y-shaped termination at the control end (1 leg for DC, 1 leg for signal).

And good luck finding the correct DB7-ish connector with the two big DC bus terminals.  Assuming you got the set at bargain prices, you'll spend more in time and money making cables for them than getting some 'standard-ish' servos.

You could skip the RS232 on the main DB7 connector and use the "Anilink" connector for communications... but that probably limits you to the Moog software.  

Next, the external encoder connection is single-ended, not differential, so it's more subject to noise.  Not the end of the world, but not ideal.

Looking at your machine drawing, I'm thinking you're planning to use 5mm ballscrews.  Direct drive, a 5mm ballscrew needs about 2500rpm to hit 500ipm.  The servos are designed for high RPM.  They'll work, but they're pretty big for the output.

Nail In The Coffin Department:  those are NEMA 23 frame servos, not industry-standard 60mm.  Very, very rare to find those - Clearpath, Parker, and some old Allen-Bradley TLY's.  If you have to replace these motors (everything dies eventually), you're stuck buying NEMA 23 servos.  Or you have to buy a metric 60mm servo and deal with adapting the spigot, bolt pattern, and shaft size.

Parker discontinued them because - in Parker's words - the integrated drive/controller limited performance due to heat.  All else being equal, a separate drive (DC or AC) doesn't have to deal with motor heat so the volts & amps to the motor can be bumped up.

Seriously, you can go on fleabay and find Parker SM232's and BE232's all day long for ~$100.  Most come with cables already attached and bog-standard incremental encoders, and you can drive them with just about anything.  Parker Aries, Allen Bradley Ultra 3k's, Copleys, whatever drive floats your boat.

Suggestion - get some really, really cheap steppers and drives and use those while you build & test out your machine.  And make sure the motor mounts & shaft connections are modular so you can upgrade to metric servos, NEMA servos, or whatever you want.

Rant over...

I agree Ralph. I played with it last year. These Servos are not made for tools machines. They run like a bag of nuts. No tuning possible, not really step/dir and these rs232 interface is too slow.
One good feature is integrated memory. You could write your own firmware in Arduino style and upload to drive. Now every time if the servo wake up will run this program. And this encoder out can connect to next drive. So all Servos follow the master and no breakout board is needed. Limit switches could connect direct. Maybe useful for tool changer unit, or something else...

I do also agree with most of what's been said above... But since you already have the motors maybe you can try to use them in step/direction mode just to see how good or bad they are for your application.

Here is the procedure taken directly from the manual:

Mode Step with ratio allows the user to define the number of internal counts the motor will move for any given external encode count change.  Minimum Requirements for a move to occur in Mode Follow with ratio:

• MS must be issued
• MFMUL must be pre-defined                 (Mode follow multiplier)
• MFDIV must be pre-defined                   (Mode follow divisor)
• MSR must be issued                             (Mode Step Ratio)
• G must be issued for the ratio to take effect
  
  Example:Suppose you want the motor to move 7 counts for every 39 pulses from an external source:
  • MS                   ‘ set motor to mode step
    MFMUL=7         ‘ set Mode Follow multiplier to 7
    MFDIV=39        ‘ set Mode Follow Divisor to 39
    MSR                 ‘ set motor to Ratio Mode
    G                      ‘ Go (Initiate the above ratio values)
      The Motor will now follow the pulse train at a ratio of 7:39 of internal to external counts
    
    
    
    You will of course need the software for that BUT yes, I can confirm that the iWare software for parker iBe integrated motors will also work with your smartmotor. Also, SMI software used to be free... Maybe ask if they can provide the older (free) version that will definitively work with your 4.15 rev. motors.