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04 Feb 2025 17:38 #320625 by langdons
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I have a toroidal transformer with 3 isolated 28.5VAC secondary windings.

The windings can be configured to provide 28.5VAC, 57VAC, and 85.5VAC

The DM556 only accepts DC input, so I am building a rectifier (the existing one is terrible).

28.5VAC rectifies to about 40VDC

Is 40VDC enough?

Is 48VDC better?

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04 Feb 2025 17:44 #320628 by langdons
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I also have purchased 2 DM860 drivers that accept 18-80VAC.

I can power them with 57VAC. Is that enough?

Would it make sense to just buy a new 35V/70V transformer or something and then sell the old one (it's toroidal)?

Where would I buy such a transformer?

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04 Feb 2025 18:54 #320635 by rodw
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The DM556 will be fine at 57 volts AC
I have drivers rated or 65v AC and have run them at 64V and had to pay attention to other parameters as that was so close to the max.
So next time I ran them at 60v AC and then finally found the manufacturers specs which I think said 55 volts was recommended!

As far as DM556 goes, 40 volts is probably OK too. It is possible to calculate the maximum voltage to achieve specific performance. A friend developed a spreadsheet that does this. In a recent design for  2 amp Sanyo denki steppers, it only required 38 volts to achieve 60m/min rapids and 5 m/s/s accelleration on a 29kg gantry. But that was after some trial and error with gearbox ratios and pinion diameter to get to the sweet spot.
 

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04 Feb 2025 19:44 #320643 by tommylight
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40VDC is enough
57VAC is enough
Start wiring stuff, build the machine, make chips,... :)
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05 Feb 2025 13:54 #320743 by langdons
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Ok.

My new rectifier will be finieshed tomorrow (some random capacitors from my school that everyone else forgot about and a rectifier bridge+heatsink desoldered from an iMac PSU on a proto board from Thailand).

The old rectifier used a 40V capacitor for 38VDC!
Only 2 volts away from damage!

My new rectifier uses 63V caps just in case.

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05 Feb 2025 13:57 #320744 by langdons
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6 680uF 63V capacitors

So 4080uF + the internal input filter capacitor of the DM556.

How much average amperage will 2 DM860@57VAC and a DM556@40VDC draw?

I don't want to fry my transformer!

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05 Feb 2025 14:03 #320746 by langdons
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Should I connect one transformer lead to ground (the plug is 3-prong, the chassis is grounded steel)?

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05 Feb 2025 14:15 #320749 by langdons
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Also, it's not really 40V, its more like 38.5VDC.

Diodes have voltage drop.

A full-wave rectifier drops like 1.4V

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05 Feb 2025 14:48 #320751 by tommylight
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Should I connect one transformer lead to ground (the plug is 3-prong, the chassis is grounded steel)?

NO!
Connect ground only to box/chasis and to shielded cables.
Amps should be enough, move on.
Transformers can handle a lot of abuse, small overloads are no problem at all. After you power everything and have it running for 10-15 minutes, do check if it is heating from time to time, and even if it gets hot after and hour or two of work, as long as you can keep your palm on it, it is OK.
Human hand will have issues above 50 degree C, at 80 it burns like hell, and you will always know if the temp has gotten over 100 as your skin will remain attached to whatever you are touching, and fingers will turn shiny! :)

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05 Feb 2025 15:33 #320758 by unknown
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Soldering Iron or Wood Burner temps will melt skin. Had a friend when I was 9 or 10 who picked up his mum's Wood Burner Iron. Old Greg was a built different to everyone else. Pretty sure when he was working on a trawler he just pulled the tuna in with his bare hands, bet he would of tried to bite the heads off a few as well.

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