motor-0-position error beim Abbremsen aus 4-7,5 m/min
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27 Apr 2025 20:06 #327182
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Actually, having a small amount of FF2 improves the following error
(the actual amount should be the time between reading the position and updating the output
though 0.005 seems large)
It may be necessary to take a look at the following error to diagnose the issue
(this will also allow for tuning of the FF2 value)
Increasing the following error limits should not hurt either
(the actual amount should be the time between reading the position and updating the output
though 0.005 seems large)
It may be necessary to take a look at the following error to diagnose the issue
(this will also allow for tuning of the FF2 value)
Increasing the following error limits should not hurt either
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27 Apr 2025 21:02 #327185
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Hi tommylight, i just followed the advice from PCW in an earlier posting: "...and change all joint PID "P" terms to 666"
OK, i will do that and also correct the stepgen max velocityto 160.
FF2 has been also an advive from PCW - I have Servos with integrated drivers, no feedback to the MEsa card.
"You might try plotting the following error and perhaps tuning by adding a little
FF2 (say .0003 to start) to the PID loop (using the calibrate menu so you can do this live) "
I'm just doing what I've been said to.
Thanks for your hints!
Greets Hanno
OK, i will do that and also correct the stepgen max velocityto 160.
FF2 has been also an advive from PCW - I have Servos with integrated drivers, no feedback to the MEsa card.
"You might try plotting the following error and perhaps tuning by adding a little
FF2 (say .0003 to start) to the PID loop (using the calibrate menu so you can do this live) "
I'm just doing what I've been said to.
Thanks for your hints!
Greets Hanno
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27 Apr 2025 21:09 #327187
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Hi PCW,
well I have had FF2 at 0,003 when the errors began and just tried 0,005, then 0,008, just not knowing what it does. I point out, that my servos (OMC 400W integrated drivers) do not send any feedback to the Mesa card, they have closed Loop Drivers/Encoders.
I can see the following error in the tuning software from OMC, but the numbers are not in any correlation to numbers in LCNC and INI file.
Is it better to leave FF2 at 0 or less than 0,003?
INcreasing FERROR = 0.1 or MIN_FERROR = 0.01? What could help more?
Thanks for your advice!
Greets, Hanno
well I have had FF2 at 0,003 when the errors began and just tried 0,005, then 0,008, just not knowing what it does. I point out, that my servos (OMC 400W integrated drivers) do not send any feedback to the Mesa card, they have closed Loop Drivers/Encoders.
I can see the following error in the tuning software from OMC, but the numbers are not in any correlation to numbers in LCNC and INI file.
Is it better to leave FF2 at 0 or less than 0,003?
INcreasing FERROR = 0.1 or MIN_FERROR = 0.01? What could help more?
Thanks for your advice!
Greets, Hanno
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27 Apr 2025 21:10 #327188
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I think you may have moved past this but the only network latency issue I can think of is that energy efficient Ethernet is enabled. This can cause intermittent latency spikes you are experiencing. The method to fix is different between Intel and Realtek device but I do mention them here
docs.google.com/document/d/1jeV_4VKzVmOI...diY/edit?usp=sharing
docs.google.com/document/d/1jeV_4VKzVmOI...diY/edit?usp=sharing
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27 Apr 2025 21:10 #327189
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1 million = P 1000
2 million = P 500
0.5 million = P 2000
etc.
And sorry, i missed the part with FF2.
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That was correct back then when you had the servo period set at 1.5 million, it is not correct when you changed the period to 2 million.Hi tommylight, i just followed the advice from PCW in an earlier posting: "...and change all joint PID "P" terms to 666"
1 million = P 1000
2 million = P 500
0.5 million = P 2000
etc.
And sorry, i missed the part with FF2.
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27 Apr 2025 21:12 #327190
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Also setting FF2 should be done with halscope.
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27 Apr 2025 21:45 #327193
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Hi rodw,
thank you, I have the DKMS r8168 driver installed weeks ago. I try this tomorrow:
Optional kernel settings (install using grub-customizer as per isolcpus setting)
r8168.aspm=0 r8168.eee_enable=0 pcie_aspm=off loglevel=3
I did not test them individually to see which helped but I suspect that disabling the "Energy Efficient Ethernet" mode might be a good culprit.
Ethernet efficiency mode has to be switched off in BIOS, right? OR is it in the network settings in Linux/Debian Network manager?
thank you, I have the DKMS r8168 driver installed weeks ago. I try this tomorrow:
Optional kernel settings (install using grub-customizer as per isolcpus setting)
r8168.aspm=0 r8168.eee_enable=0 pcie_aspm=off loglevel=3
I did not test them individually to see which helped but I suspect that disabling the "Energy Efficient Ethernet" mode might be a good culprit.
Ethernet efficiency mode has to be switched off in BIOS, right? OR is it in the network settings in Linux/Debian Network manager?
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