No Start on Linuxcnc 2.7.14 and 7i76e
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						07 Nov 2019 21:18				#149873
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				No Start on Linuxcnc 2.7.14 and 7i76e was created by +Jan+			
			
				Hello,
a friend of mine is currently setting up his CNC milling machine for his guitar workshop and I'm helping him with switch cabinet construction and software.
The switch cabinet is in operation so far and today it should go to the software.
He decided for the 7i76e and prepared his computer according to these instructions here:
Linuxcnc (2.7.14 on Debian Stretch) starts correctly with the simulation configurations.
After I created a configuration with pncconf for him today the big disillusionment came. Linuxcnc starts and crashes without error message (the logo appears and then nothing more).
When we start from the terminal the following message appears:
In the logs is also not that much information:
And
Also other sample configs like www.talla83.de/linuxcnc/iHSV57_2_7.zip cause the same behavior.
Any ideas to solve this problem?
Best wishes and thanks in advance
Jan
					a friend of mine is currently setting up his CNC milling machine for his guitar workshop and I'm helping him with switch cabinet construction and software.
The switch cabinet is in operation so far and today it should go to the software.
He decided for the 7i76e and prepared his computer according to these instructions here:
Linuxcnc (2.7.14 on Debian Stretch) starts correctly with the simulation configurations.
After I created a configuration with pncconf for him today the big disillusionment came. Linuxcnc starts and crashes without error message (the logo appears and then nothing more).
When we start from the terminal the following message appears:
cnc@cnc:~$ sudo linuxcnc /home/cnc/linuxcnc/configs/iHSV57/iHSV57.ini
[sudo] Passwort für cnc: 
LINUXCNC - 2.7.14-157-ga3f30ca35
Machine configuration directory is '/home/cnc/linuxcnc/configs/iHSV57'
Machine configuration file is 'iHSV57.ini'
Starting LinuxCNC...
Found file(REL): ./iHSV57.hal
Refusing to run as root without fallback UID specified
To run under a debugger with I/O, use e.g.,
    sudo env RTAPI_UID=`id -u` RTAPI_FIFO_PATH=$HOME/.rtapi_fifo gdb rtapi_app
./iHSV57.hal:3: waitpid failed /usr/bin/rtapi_app trivkins
./iHSV57.hal:3: /usr/bin/rtapi_app exited without becoming ready
./iHSV57.hal:3: insmod for trivkins failed, returned -1
Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC...
Running HAL shutdown script
Refusing to run as root without fallback UID specified
To run under a debugger with I/O, use e.g.,
    sudo env RTAPI_UID=`id -u` RTAPI_FIFO_PATH=$HOME/.rtapi_fifo gdb rtapi_app
LinuxCNC terminated with an error.  You can find more information in the log:
    /root/linuxcnc_debug.txt
and
    /root/linuxcnc_print.txt
as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the terminalIn the logs is also not that much information:
3327
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal componentsAnd
RUN_IN_PLACE=no
LINUXCNC_DIR=
LINUXCNC_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin
LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc
LINUXCNC_SCRIPT_DIR=
LINUXCNC_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules
LINUXCNC_CONFIG_DIR=
LINUXCNC_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/linuxcnc/tcl/msgs
INIVAR=inivar
HALCMD=halcmd
LINUXCNC_EMCSH=/usr/bin/wish8.6
INIFILE=/home/cnc/linuxcnc/configs/iHSV57/iHSV57.ini
PARAMETER_FILE=linuxcnc.var
TASK=milltask
HALUI=halui
DISPLAY=axis
Starting LinuxCNC server program: linuxcncsvr
Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules
Starting LinuxCNC IO program: io
Starting HAL User Interface program: halui
Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
Removing NML shared memory segmentsAlso other sample configs like www.talla83.de/linuxcnc/iHSV57_2_7.zip cause the same behavior.
Any ideas to solve this problem?
Best wishes and thanks in advance
Jan
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						07 Nov 2019 21:34				#149876
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				Replied by cmorley on topic No Start on Linuxcnc 2.7.14 and 7i76e			
			
				why are you using sudo to run linxcnc?
This is not a good idea and is implied as the problem.
I don't know German so can't follow the video very well.
is this a compiled or installed version of linuxcnc?
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					This is not a good idea and is implied as the problem.
I don't know German so can't follow the video very well.
is this a compiled or installed version of linuxcnc?
Chris
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						07 Nov 2019 21:38				#149877
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				Hey Chris,
it is a compiled version of Linux.
I can try without sudo tomorrow, but also if we start with the icon from the desktop the problem appears.
Best wishes
Jan
					it is a compiled version of Linux.
I can try without sudo tomorrow, but also if we start with the icon from the desktop the problem appears.
Best wishes
Jan
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						07 Nov 2019 21:39				#149878
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				trying on my installed version - I get the same error.
try starting without sudo
Chris
					try starting without sudo
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						07 Nov 2019 21:40				#149879
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				Replied by tommylight on topic No Start on Linuxcnc 2.7.14 and 7i76e			
			
				It looks like you will have to install everything all over and this time skip the ROOT password, just click next.
Your Debian is installed and running as root user, and that is never good if you have no really good reason for it.
					Your Debian is installed and running as root user, and that is never good if you have no really good reason for it.
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						07 Nov 2019 21:41				#149880
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				Did you run the command: sudo make setuid?			
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						07 Nov 2019 21:43				#149881
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What makes you think that (Debian is always root)?
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			It looks like you will have to install everything all over and this time skip the ROOT password, just click next.
Your Debian is installed and running as root user, and that is never good if you have no really good reason for it.
What makes you think that (Debian is always root)?
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						07 Nov 2019 21:45				#149882
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				His logs are saved in root folder. Check the first code snippet.			
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						07 Nov 2019 21:46				#149883
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				Replied by cmorley on topic No Start on Linuxcnc 2.7.14 and 7i76e			
			
				ahh yes I see it - thanks			
					
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						07 Nov 2019 21:48				#149884
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				Replied by +Jan+ on topic No Start on Linuxcnc 2.7.14 and 7i76e			
			
				Thanks so far. I did not set up the PC but I will ask him tomorrow and let you know.
Best wishes
Jan
					Best wishes
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