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						08 Aug 2021 11:37				#217211
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				Replied by phillc54 on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				MX21 should have the same kernels as Debian11, that is the base they build off. I think you are comparing it to MX19.
MX doesn't need an external grub customiser they have one of their own plus a lot of other handy extra tools.
You shouldn't need the headers to build linuxcnc for uspace, only for RTAI.
					MX doesn't need an external grub customiser they have one of their own plus a lot of other handy extra tools.
You shouldn't need the headers to build linuxcnc for uspace, only for RTAI.
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						08 Aug 2021 11:39				#217212
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				Replied by robertspark on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				thanks rod and Phil
I'll have a go this evening
					I'll have a go this evening
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						08 Aug 2021 12:47				#217217
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grub-customiizer is now in my synaptic but I don't have the repo set anymore so maybe its now part of the distro Strange....
I have a number of issues on 2 PC's with MXlinux loosing input devices so not keen on it but my primary reason to go to Debian was driver support. There are a few gotchas like adding yourself to the sudoer group but su gives you elevated priveleges.
I have not got the auto logon working. I thought that would be easy. The Screen saver settings are in settings/power settings
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
				Replied by rodw on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			I needed the headers to install some hardware drivers hence they are in the list.MX21 should have the same kernels as Debian11, that is the base they build off. I think you are comparing it to MX19.
MX doesn't need an external grub customiser they have one of their own plus a lot of other handy extra tools.
You shouldn't need the headers to build linuxcnc for uspace, only for RTAI.When I looke
grub-customiizer is now in my synaptic but I don't have the repo set anymore so maybe its now part of the distro Strange....
I have a number of issues on 2 PC's with MXlinux loosing input devices so not keen on it but my primary reason to go to Debian was driver support. There are a few gotchas like adding yourself to the sudoer group but su gives you elevated priveleges.
I have not got the auto logon working. I thought that would be easy. The Screen saver settings are in settings/power settings
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						08 Aug 2021 12:50				#217220
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				Replied by rodw on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				What I've written tonight..Go to the menu and select settings/grub customizerOn the list configuration tab. Click on Debian/GNU/Linux with Linux 5.10.0-8-rt-amd64Click on the up arrow until it's the very first entryCheck on the General Settings tab ensure that default entry is predefined and ther(first entry) is selectedClick on save and close.Restart your machine to boot into the PREEMPT_RT kernelOpen a terminal and type uname -v and check it reports PREMPT_RTAdd your user to the sudoers group by typing usermod -aG sudo your-user-nameIf it does not stick, type su and try againFrom the menu settings/Power manager set the power settings to suit your needs. Now its time to  build linuxcnc from source. First we need to install the many dependencies required. Open a terminal window and paste the following in and press enter........Time for a coffee, this will take a while. Now just simply follow the instructions to build Linuxcnc here
	linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html
To create the debs, keep going and the debs will be created in your home directoryOpen a terminal in your home folder or type ~Type gdebi linuxcnc-doc-en_2.9.0~pre0_all.deb Thats it, you are done!
The one thing I could not find was libgnomeprintui-2.2 which is only used by Classic ladder when printing. I've never used CLassic ladder so it was not an issue for me.
					The one thing I could not find was libgnomeprintui-2.2 which is only used by Classic ladder when printing. I've never used CLassic ladder so it was not an issue for me.
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						08 Aug 2021 12:52				#217221
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				Replied by rodw on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				Man this forum editor is really crap. sorry about the formatting/			
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						08 Aug 2021 13:07				#217223
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				Replied by phillc54 on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				You keep comparing Debian11 to MX19.
MX21 will have the same drivers as Debian11.
					MX21 will have the same drivers as Debian11.
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						08 Aug 2021 13:25				#217225
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But I kept getting mouse driver failures on MX (on 2 PCs) and none of the other distros I used did this.
I'm not really seeing any compelling reasons to stray away from Debian anymore as I went to mint to get driver support and compile a PREEMPT_RT kernel in the first place.
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
				Replied by rodw on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			Yes, both use the 5.10 kernel but MX Linux did not install my network card on the Odroid and I knew it was in the Debian distro. Maybe MX is pure to open source and does not support the non-free stuff. At least Debian gave me the option to install it.You keep comparing Debian11 to MX19.
MX21 will have the same drivers as Debian11.
But I kept getting mouse driver failures on MX (on 2 PCs) and none of the other distros I used did this.
I'm not really seeing any compelling reasons to stray away from Debian anymore as I went to mint to get driver support and compile a PREEMPT_RT kernel in the first place.
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						08 Aug 2021 13:34		 -  08 Aug 2021 13:35		#217227
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				Replied by robertspark on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			Man this forum editor is really crap. sorry about the formattformattin
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						08 Aug 2021 13:42				#217228
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				Replied by robertspark on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				I installed Debian 11 in a time window I had.... it was missing a driver for my WiFi (fairly newish card.... always worked / loaded fine in Debian 10)
MX-21 was taking way too long ( cement through a straw!)
sort all the rest later
					MX-21 was taking way too long ( cement through a straw!)
sort all the rest later
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						08 Aug 2021 19:26				#217257
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				Replied by tommylight on topic Debian 11/ Bullseye / MX Linux 21 - how to run a buildbot AND RIP install?			
			
				Debian has always two versions of the same release, one free and the other is non-free that comes with plenty of drivers and is much bigger in size.
Use the latter.
					Use the latter.
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