Installing LinuxCNC 2.9 or Master on Linux Mint 21

Mint is based on Ubuntu
Ubuntu is based on Debian
How the hell does mint boot in under 20 seconds on my main PC while Debian takes over 40???

Debian is proof that humanity still has a chance, so many people working on it, scattered all over the world, still managed to create something that just works, and works with a lot of hardware, and can be tuned and modified and bent and shaped and... and the most important part = once set up it never fails!
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I have to agree with Rod regarding the "testing" name and the "updates" state of mind, most people see that and run away as they are used to MS BS, or ... no rant!
I also agree with Todd, install the same desktop environment and they are the same, and Debian will be much faster in everything except boot time. And uses less memory.
Now the good in Mint:
-it works, from 17.3 to 19.3 it was indestructible
-it did not allow "snaps" or snap package installs
-it has a lot of nice features that are hidden, like context menus with admin stuff on right click
-had it on for 68 days, no slowdowns, no lag, snappy as the first boot
-working dark theme
-it works! Yes again. I had Debian destroy itself beyond repair from a simple update, twice. Mint never.
And the bad in Mint:
-20 and 21 include "geoclue" i hate that, it is not mentioned anywhere
-it auto starts some cr@p i do not like so have to disable
-it looks like MS windows, all Linux distros/DE do
-i'm out
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Now, i am seriously thinking of switching to Debian or POP OS, and the latter is wining by a large margin, it feels different and smooth and polished. No matter what i choose i am not giving up on Debian or Mint, they deserve the utmost respect.
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rodw wrote:

I know Mint is nice but I really don't get why you bother to install a Mint beta with the 5.15 kernel when you can just install Debian Bookworm (aka testing) and get a similar kernel (5.15 or 5.17 last tiem I tried) . and just use apt install to install Linuxcnc without any intermediate steps.

Rod, respecting other peoples choices and stuff?

Added the tidbit about not using this for Mesa 7i96S due to LinuxCNC build being from April of this year.

No, for some strange reason the buildbot deb requires Python under 3.8 and over 3.10 to work.
But you can always compile LinuxCNC on Mint 21, it takes a while though, over half hour on my Ryzen 7 3700X.

Yes, the issue was fixed a while back so it works with and without docs.