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  • unknown
  • unknown
08 Feb 2025 07:48

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Samba was the next thing I was going to address.
Simple sharing by using the file manager no root intervention required .
Tho if you need file sharing from Linux to Linux NFS is a far far better solution.
  • unknown
  • unknown
08 Feb 2025 07:43

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Category: Installing LinuxCNC

I couldn't get wpa_supplicant to work at my site. Being the lazy ass I am I found it easier to just edit the interfaces file.
Then working out I was even more lazier, and I like to enable and disable wifi on the fly, I installed network-manager-gnome.
To be honest I'm thinking that building an update image for the RPi 5 with network-manager might be worth it. If users want to use the gpio driver they'll have to disable it
Why didn't someone read the info with the download ?
1: people are lazy
2: people don't pay attention they just want the instant reward
3: they just download from a link.

I put up a link to the Debian way of setting up networking, but I don't think people read this thread or read a thread from the beginning.
  • rodw
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08 Feb 2025 05:20

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Why didn't you follow the instructions on the Downloads page to setup wireless networking and simply type:
sudo menu-config ?

Re a fixed IP wired connection for Mesa Ethernet card, follow the directions in the man page for hm2_eth (type man hm2_eth) or follow this link.
linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man9/hm2_eth.9.html
If you are using a wired connection for internet, there should be nothing to set up as it will get an IP address from your router automatically using DHCP. 
  • behai
  • behai
08 Feb 2025 04:55

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Hi,

Still in regard to the image linuxcnc.org/iso/rpi-4-debian-bookworm-6...25-01-27-0404.img.xz, I have found the following information useful:

1. The desktop is XFCE, we can find out using the command echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP.

2. In regard to enabling Wifi.

This image comes with no network manager tool, nmcli is not available.

ChatGPT suggests the following steps. And I have carried them out successfully.

Please note, I had to switch to superuser to run the below commands.

To switch to superuser, use sudo su -.

a. Connect Using wpa_supplicant (If No NetworkManager).

b. Generate a configuration file:

[
wpa_passphrase "<WIFI_NETWORK_NAME>" "<WIFI_PASSWORD>" | sudo tee /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
]

c. Start wpa_supplicant:

[
wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
]

Please note, wlan0. I think this is called network device name. We can find it out using the command ip link show, there are several output entries, I just guessed which on is the Wifi one, and lucky it was correct :)

d. Obtain an IP address via DHCP:

[
dhclient wlan0
]

e. Persist WiFi Connection (For Boot Time). Ensure it's enabled at boot:

[
systemctl enable wpa_supplicant
systemctl start wpa_supplicant
]

f. Test connectivity:

[
ping -c 4 8.8.8.8
]

It should give successful responses.

g. I restarted the machine. And still have Wifi, but there is no Wifi icon. I have not been able to get it to display.

3. In regard to Remote Desktop Connection.

I followed this article phoenixnap.com/kb/debian-remote-desktop and get it to work successfully.

Connecting from my Windows 10, the desktop just displays rubbish. It is not usuable.

4. In regard to directory sharing.

Samba works successfully, just like in Ubuntu and Raspbian. The setting up process is pretty much the same.

Thank you and best regards,

...behai.
  • behai
  • behai
08 Feb 2025 04:17

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Hi,

Thank you for the thread. It is very informative.

In regard to the image linuxcnc.org/iso/rpi-4-debian-bookworm-6...25-01-27-0404.img.xz
and locale, I have been able to verify that locale en US.UTF-8 works for PNCConf.

And after using menu-config to set the locale, I had to restart the machine for it takes effect.

After machine restarted, we should verify the locale. On a terminal window type locale the output should match.

-- I did try to set the locale to en AU.UTF-8 and it did not work.

Thank you and best regards,

...behai.

 
  • KrisJ
  • KrisJ
08 Feb 2025 04:04
Replied by KrisJ on topic LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

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Category: Installing LinuxCNC

(Sorry for double posting. Cant edit last post, can only see the block quote when i try to edit)

I found a solution for my missing WiFi connections.
Second method mentioned in the top reply. (first method didn't work for me)
askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-ma...s-device-not-managed

***
.....
Then open the file:
sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
Delete everything in that file and copy and paste the following:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

Save, stop and start network manager:

sudo service network-manager restart
***
I had to reboot my whole system but after that WiFi works like expected.
  • KrisJ
  • KrisJ
08 Feb 2025 03:33
Replied by KrisJ on topic LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

I can at least confirm a pi 5 that is able to find WiFi networks. In my case nmtui did work I chose something I remember was called ‘activate network’ and it would show a bunch (and prompt for password).

With kind regards,
Jairo 

edit: this is on the latest linuxcnc image 2.9.4 by rodw 

Thanks for the reply jairobbo!
That is really weird. I did exactly that but my list appear empty. Fresh install 2.9.4 and thensudo apt install network-manager
Did you use the 2.9.4 from downloads page, I think thats rodw's, right? Version of Rpi5? (I have the 4GB)

I also tried sudo apt install network-manager-gnomeAnd when I pop down the little menu there is a grayed out text "device not managed" and under that is only VPN connections. Any idea what might be off on my system?
  • probotix
  • probotix
08 Feb 2025 01:27
Replied by probotix on topic LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

Yeah the whole switch from Ubuntu to Debian cost me a ton of money. I'm a Linux guy myself and I can work in any Linux distro even if it hurts my eyes, but we couldn't do that to our customers, most of whom are scared of Linux in the first place. We stayed on 2.6 until UEFI forced us to update to 2.8 and then again when parallel ports finally dried up and mesa cards forced us onto 2.9. Now PC motherboards are almost obsolete in general, and the switch to rpi was forced, but has actually been pleasant thanks to a lot of yours efforts
  • unknown
  • unknown
08 Feb 2025 01:01
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LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

And finally for up to date info on the RPi and the images please jump to:
forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc...the-rpasberry-pi-4-5

Hopefully this will end up as a one stop for most issues and advice.
  • unknown
  • unknown
08 Feb 2025 00:59

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Regarding Network Manager
sudo apt install network-manager-gnome

This will install the panel applet and network-manager making managed networking easier to setup.

For a description on networking the debian way.
wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
  • unknown
  • unknown
08 Feb 2025 00:55
Replied by unknown on topic LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

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Category: Installing LinuxCNC

I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of the std xfce panel setup, but that's easy enough to change.
Actually I prefer MATE and have made images for myself with the MATE desktop without any of the XFCE4 hangover, but it is simple enough to install MATE on the std linuxcnc image, whether amd64 or arm64.

With regards to wifi & networking in general.
sudo apt install network-manager-gnome
installs network manager & the gnome applet. The reason this has been left out is because there were some latency issues, I think with the 12.x series being far better this is not such an issue.
I like the gnome applet as I like to turn wifi off when running Linuxcnc.

If a touch screen enumerates as HID it will just work. As the images we build use the RPi-Linux sources it may be a kernel module that isn't included in our build to support non HID touchscreens.
On screen keyboard, just a package we don't include.
Reasons for not using RPIOS, the fact that it uses wayland as a default and X compatibility layer is very slow, so slow that there is a significant difference when running latency tests between wayland (as stock) and changing to X.
Branding is also an issue, something I really want to deal with. Debian isn't so restrictive, hence the reason the PC images changed from Ubuntu to Debian.

There is also a thread some where on the forum regarding Linuxcnc on RPIOS. The topic author slips my mind at this moment.
  • probotix
  • probotix
07 Feb 2025 22:05 - 07 Feb 2025 22:07
Replied by probotix on topic LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

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Category: Installing LinuxCNC

I happen to like the RPIOS default desktop (LXDE-PI) way better than LinuxCNCs (XFCE or whatever it is) and a host of other reasons, including the Raspis built in touchscreen support and on-screen keyboard. Everything, including wi-fi, just seems to work. Its easy to install LinuxCNC on it. If anyone is interested, I'll start a new thread.
  • jairobbo
  • jairobbo
07 Feb 2025 18:42 - 07 Feb 2025 18:43
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Hi KrisJ,

I can at least confirm a pi 5 that is able to find WiFi networks. In my case nmtui did work I chose something I remember was called ‘activate network’ and it would show a bunch (and prompt for password).

With kind regards,
Jairo 

edit: this is on the latest linuxcnc image 2.9.4 by rodw 
  • KrisJ
  • KrisJ
07 Feb 2025 17:57
Replied by KrisJ on topic LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

LinuxCNC on Raspberry Pi 5

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

OK, So I think I managed to configure some GPIOs (more or less) successfully using official Rpi5 img, (Thanks for the guidance, unkonwn)

Now my problem is that I can't manage to get the WiFi working and I sorely need it for development. I'm pretty sure I ran some older release that had it working (with network-manager) out of the box but network-manager does not seem to be installed by default in this version.

What I tried is apt-get install network-manager and after that I reboot and launch the terminal based GUI with 'nmtui'. In here (in previous versions) I used to see a list of SSIDs to connect to but now the list is empty. I'm guessing that there might be an issue with some driver or similar and that no WiFi chip is recognized but I don't have the knowledge to check. Has anyone else got their WiFi up and running on the latest Rpi5 image?
  • unknown
  • unknown
07 Feb 2025 12:31
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Category: Installing LinuxCNC

Ok I get it now, Grad. You were just being human. All's good ;)
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