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Today 06:19

Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Category: Driver Boards

hi,
with Pulse and direction top speed and precision calculus are clear  but

But how to calculate the bandwidth on a Ethercat servo drive and precision?
let say leadscrew pitch 0.100inch encoder servo 10000 ppr?
if bus cycle time is 1000000 and refClockSyncCycles=1
how to determine the top speed IPM and minimal resolution in  Inches (minimal cut).
 

With ethercat servo drive operating in velocity mode, your main limitation will be the servo's rated/max speed. The resolution limitation will be time based, if I'm correct LinuxCNC EtherCAT will have something like a 2mS feedback latency on a 1mS thread, so this will limit your positioning accuracy during very fast moves. I am not aware that a regular machine tool is capable of reaching this speed limit.
Here is a detailed explanation how it is timed.  
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Today 05:50

Dual PID loops and appropriate pins for feedback to the Trajectory Planner et al

Category: Advanced Configuration

When I looked at this and it seems you have both encoders connected to index-enable.


 

I agree this sounds off. I suspect it will very likely always find the one index first, and I expect that to be the servo index, unless home switch is quite near to scale index. I think ideally you'd want to use only the scale index.
  • automata
  • automata
Today 04:36
Replied by automata on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Hi all,
Attached please find a pdf describing the math for the proposed jerk limited planner to be added. It is done by AI, and I want to put it up for community comments.  

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I would be happy to discuss the approach and incorporate suggestions and make modifications to this plan as the discussion evolves.
-automata
  • cmorley
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Yesterday 00:06

Dual PID loops and appropriate pins for feedback to the Trajectory Planner et al

Category: Advanced Configuration

I wanted to add this to our docs some where for a guide to others.
When I looked at this and it seems you have both encoders connected to index-enable.

This seems wrong in my head, as it would depend on which encoder index fired first.

Any opinion or insight?
Thanks
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Yesterday 22:53
Replied by mediocre_chloride on topic Denford Orac ATC toolchanger component

Denford Orac ATC toolchanger component

Category: HAL Examples

Hi
i recently acquired a Denford lathe and am wondering if the comp is still around?
the wiki download is ending in a error 404. 
The only other similar thing I found was this link: 
www.machinekit.io/docs/developing/toolchangers/
But I am not sure it is the same thing.

Does anybody have access to the component from the original Wiki willing to share?

kind regards
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Yesterday 21:28
Replied by tommylight on topic LinuxCNC Version Question

LinuxCNC Version Question

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

2.9.10
Thank you for remind us to update the documentation.
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Yesterday 21:27
Replied by tommylight on topic DeskProto 8.1

DeskProto 8.1

Category: CAD CAM

I have a lot of questions for you, but no answer.
  • Logthor
  • Logthor
Yesterday 21:14
LinuxCNC Version Question was created by Logthor

LinuxCNC Version Question

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

Hi all,

I just have a quick question regarding what version I should use for LinuxCNC. In your guide you say that version 2.9.8 should be used, but in the download section you say that 2.9.10 should be used. I just would like clarification on which ISO I should download and use.

Thanks
  • deviltribs
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Yesterday 20:35
DeskProto 8.1 was created by deviltribs

DeskProto 8.1

Category: CAD CAM

Does anyone know where I can get a free license for DeskProto 8.1?
  • tuxcnc
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Yesterday 20:34
Replied by tuxcnc on topic Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Category: Driver Boards

hi,
with Pulse and direction top speed and precision calculus are clear  but

But how to calculate the bandwidth on a Ethercat servo drive and precision?
let say leadscrew pitch 0.100inch encoder servo 10000 ppr?
if bus cycle time is 1000000 and refClockSyncCycles=1
how to determine the top speed IPM and minimal resolution in  Inches (minimal cut).
 

In amateur machines, none of this matters.
You can count it for hours and buy a Chinese ball screw with a backlash  0.1 mm like me...
  • leexi
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Yesterday 20:20 - Yesterday 20:22
Replied by leexi on topic Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Category: Driver Boards

hi,
with Pulse and direction top speed and precision calculus are clear  but

But how to calculate the bandwidth on a Ethercat servo drive and precision?
let say leadscrew pitch 0.100inch encoder servo 10000 ppr?
if bus cycle time is 1000000 and refClockSyncCycles=1
how to determine the top speed IPM and minimal resolution in  Inches (minimal cut).
  • hitchhiker
  • hitchhiker
Yesterday 20:14
Replied by hitchhiker on topic PUMA 200 Robotarm and some Hal/INI issues

PUMA 200 Robotarm and some Hal/INI issues

Category: Advanced Configuration

today.... get some stuff working...

i managed to eliminate the coupling of axis a to b axis a to c and axis b to c.

then i get it work to home on my edding marks with index signals from the encoders.

i think i am near to a working world mode?! but Z axis doesnt look ok... i upload some videos....

joint mode for handling stuff works perfect... but my world mode.. doesnt work correct... possible someone know the issue of my z axis? i double check all length and offsets for the DH parameters.... the angles are still the same (alpha).

right hand rule.. thumb as Z up.. i must doo the stuff i think... i will make some stuff from cradboard.. after this weekend..headache..


here some youtube shorts

www.youtube.com/shorts/QVSaIWWKXsQ

www.youtube.com/shorts/nbMT6QoQUbg

www.youtube.com/shorts/eSobhr9gZZ0

www.youtube.com/shorts/EBi62z3gkNc



possible i am on the wrong way with my DH parameters and rotations of each axis.. thats why i make a tool from cardboard to identify the issue


thanks
  • tuxcnc
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Yesterday 19:09
Replied by tuxcnc on topic Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Category: Driver Boards

interesting to know what are the step output card band with
 

Don't worry. In a real machine feed and acceleration are limited by mechanical parameters.
Whereas increase microstepping decreases effects. In other words there is big different for 1/2 and 1/4 and small different for 1/128 and 1/256...
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Yesterday 19:05 - Yesterday 19:30

Chinise mesa clone vs Original vs Ethercat

Category: Driver Boards

The maximum step rate will be limited by the step length and step space parameters.
In a working system, these parameters in turn are limited by the drives minimum timing values.

If the clone cards uses that same clock scheme as Mesa cards ( Stepgen base clock= 100 MHz ),
step rates to 10 MHz are possible.
 
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