THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
09 Jan 2022 12:57 - 09 Jan 2022 12:58 #231246
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
Did you check if there is any resistance between the electrodes and the raw arc outputs?
That would need to be included as part of your scaling resistors to get the thcad scaled correctly.
If it does have say 100k on each pin, the external voltage won't be lethal so it will be safe to keep it all outside as you have now.
The Everlast and Thermal Dynamics machines I have had both had 100k resistance mentioned in the manual and I measured that on the everlast with a multimeter.
That would need to be included as part of your scaling resistors to get the thcad scaled correctly.
If it does have say 100k on each pin, the external voltage won't be lethal so it will be safe to keep it all outside as you have now.
The Everlast and Thermal Dynamics machines I have had both had 100k resistance mentioned in the manual and I measured that on the everlast with a multimeter.
Last edit: 09 Jan 2022 12:58 by rodw.
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09 Jan 2022 19:21 #231255
by Ekholm
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09 Jan 2022 21:28 #231260
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
Did you use your multimeter to check if there was any resistance between the pins and the electrodes before you started?
YO really need to know that.
YO really need to know that.
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10 Jan 2022 19:25 #231335
by Ekholm
Replied by Ekholm on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
Oh didn’t know that it was important, thanks! I measured 120kohm on both ground and plus. Do I need to compensate with a smaller resistor or how do I do it?
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10 Jan 2022 19:41 #231339
by rodw
Recalculate the full scale reading as per the formula in the THCAD manual including ALL resistance in the circuit (eg 240k Ohm plus the resistors you added).
If its not satisfactory, adjust your resistor values to account for this.
I tested this on my plasma cutter and the adjustment is definitely required. Be sure to scale your software scaling parameters correctly
Replied by rodw on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
Yes, you need to adjust as its part of the scaling resistance the THCAD sees.Oh didn’t know that it was important, thanks! I measured 120kohm on both ground and plus. Do I need to compensate with a smaller resistor or how do I do it?
Recalculate the full scale reading as per the formula in the THCAD manual including ALL resistance in the circuit (eg 240k Ohm plus the resistors you added).
If its not satisfactory, adjust your resistor values to account for this.
I tested this on my plasma cutter and the adjustment is definitely required. Be sure to scale your software scaling parameters correctly
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10 Jan 2022 19:48 #231340
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
PS: For others contemplating this plasma cutter, there is no need to locate resistors inside the plasma case with this plasma cutter as the 120k resistance on each terminal ensures the current is non-lethal. In fact, there is no reason why the THCAD can't be located inside the main control box.
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10 Jan 2022 21:09 - 10 Jan 2022 21:13 #231345
by Ekholm
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10 Jan 2022 21:59 #231349
by rodw
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You read the manual. Use 1/32
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10 Jan 2022 23:16 #231362
by tommylight
No sleep so i'll leave that to someone with less caffeine in their bloodstream !
Replied by tommylight on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
You can also include their value in and adjust the scaling accordingly without changing resistors.Oh didn’t know that it was important, thanks! I measured 120kohm on both ground and plus. Do I need to compensate with a smaller resistor or how do I do it?
No sleep so i'll leave that to someone with less caffeine in their bloodstream !
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11 Jan 2022 11:32 - 11 Jan 2022 11:33 #231434
by Ekholm
Replied by Ekholm on topic THCAD 10 to Herocut 55i (1:1)
Hi!
I’m not sure if I understand this correctly. But should I do it this way?
If I measure the voltage between the nozzle and the ground clamp. Then I know the full scale voltage input (VFS)? And the maximum current (100uA)
then I can solve the REXT equation added in attachment .
the example then shows a 4.9M resistor if VFS=500.
If I use this example should I take 4.9 M - (1M + 120k )=3.78M
and add another 3.78Mohm to each output pin?!
I’m not sure if I understand this correctly. But should I do it this way?
If I measure the voltage between the nozzle and the ground clamp. Then I know the full scale voltage input (VFS)? And the maximum current (100uA)
then I can solve the REXT equation added in attachment .
the example then shows a 4.9M resistor if VFS=500.
If I use this example should I take 4.9 M - (1M + 120k )=3.78M
and add another 3.78Mohm to each output pin?!
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