Deckel Retrofit FP4A

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5 years 7 months ago #202823 by MrSpeaky
Replied by MrSpeaky on topic Deckel Retrofit FP4A
I am keeping the old spindel configuration as i dont like the lost torque from and vfd
which is why i want to use the old gearbox
though i might replace the main spindle motor with an 5kw Servo when i got everything running for a while :) and got the money *cough* students poor

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5 years 7 months ago - 5 years 7 months ago #202824 by RotarySMP
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MrSpeaky wrote: Well one of the SPS(PLC) Cards was broken and other people in the german CNC community discord advised me to throw it out as the deckel sps likes to give weird errors without actually giving the proper reason for it


Good point. Forty year old electronics can be a nightmare.

Where did you buy the Lichuan servos?
Mark
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5 years 7 months ago - 5 years 7 months ago #202847 by db1981
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Hi,

i have the same Machine FP4A with Heidenhain TNC355 Controller.

The difference between the Deckel and the Maho Gearbox is, that on the Deckel the Gear Motors are able to drive continously...

An important point is the valve Y10 on page 28 of your pdf. this is for the lubrication of the vertical head. normally you get no notice if this function works, at my machine the plc output was broken and sadly the vertical spindle bearings got no oil for an long time....

this should be the same gearbox forum.linuxcnc.org/12-milling/35316-retrofitting-a-deckel-fp5nc
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5 years 7 months ago #202849 by MrSpeaky
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I bought them directly from lichuan i messaged the email i got from aliexpress. So through that i managed to get then quite cheap
2 x 1.3Kw and once 2.6kw with a break with drivers for 980€ Plus shipping and Customs

Though now that i got then
the reason i bought them is because they support the +-10V from the Mesa 7i77
But i noticed that they also support Fancy Modbus over ethernet cable might actually be easier to controll then through that cause you can just connect them together but i dont know how that works

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5 years 7 months ago #202850 by MrSpeaky
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Yes it is thank you. But i cant seem to find him habing found a proper solution to his gearbox

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5 years 7 months ago #202852 by db1981
Replied by db1981 on topic Deckel Retrofit FP4A
do you have more papers in the orange book as scanned into the pdf?
there should be an outprint/drawing of the pc programm. Then may be i can help you.
unfortunately in the orange book from the later dialog11 and tncs this is not included anymore.
When i'm finished with my gildemeister adventure, the deckel is the next on the list for linuxcnc. so it makes no matter for me if i code this now or next year...

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