Deckel Retrofit FP4A

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25 Mar 2021 12:00 #203607 by db1981
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Hi,

I know IC-HAUS, the input impedance and hf filtering from the exes for the 11µA has not been 100% clear to me... If i need this i will make an own Circuit Board, we have done this for the phillips scales a few years ago. 4 Scale inputs -> FPGA + DSP -> ethercat out...
Gearshift comp could be configurable, my maho comp is configurable too, its anywhere in marks thread to.... but documentation has not been done yet.....

I have found the original plc programms and diagramms for the deckel gearchange on my harddisk yesterday, have forgotten about it......
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25 Mar 2021 12:00 #203609 by MrSpeaky
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What db 1981 says seems to be correct
thank you

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25 Mar 2021 13:03 #203615 by db1981
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attached the transmission logic

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25 Mar 2021 22:33 - 25 Mar 2021 22:43 #203647 by J Green
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Deckel Orange Books
web.archive.org/web/20170907121332/http:...m/theorangebooks.htm

Found what remains at -- web.archive.org/web/20170907121332/http://www.dialog5.com ) - Bummer - still a lot of useful information . But the photos - schematics - info about gear changing are missing ( web.archive.org/web/20170907121332/http:.../wessleysproject.htm ) - Bummer - Another reinvent the wheel. situation .
Last edit: 25 Mar 2021 22:43 by J Green. Reason: clear up diaglog5 needing web archive
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26 Mar 2021 00:19 #203654 by MrSpeaky
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Thank you guys for all the links to different orange books, they seem to be more complete than mine in terms of the sps which is very helpfull.

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26 Mar 2021 00:22 #203655 by MrSpeaky
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Hello linuxcnc community.
again.. ::unsure: i feel kinda bad about asking so much all the time but
what can i do?

well. I found out my orange book does not fit my machine actually at least not 100%
the X Connectors do not match.
My machines has a serial number starting with
2810 -
built in 1988

which i cant find any orange books to online i also seem to have a very rare electrical cabinet being over 1.8m long

dialog5 and etc do not have the information i have.

somebody got another soruce?

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26 Mar 2021 00:42 #203656 by MrSpeaky
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Even more curiously my machine casting says 2810 Everywhere. on the spindle casting the main casting etc.

The sheet metal housing says 2821
And the electrical cabinet says 2821 aswell..

what the hell did i buy here..
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26 Mar 2021 01:05 #203660 by db1981
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which control was this`?

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26 Mar 2021 02:27 #203662 by MrSpeaky
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It was a Dialog 4 in a Contour 3 Housing (Replaced st some point)

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26 Mar 2021 02:29 #203663 by MrSpeaky
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I am never gonna be this stupid again and buy a machine with an electrical cabinet that does not fit together :woohoo:
i noticed a small small amount of mismatch in the pin occupation of the X Connectors so i am gonna and will have to redo the entire electrical cabinet from Scratch... god this will take long

I am just gonna replace a lot now. Starting with an VFD

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