Deckel Retrofit FP4A

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27 Mar 2024 10:18 #296877 by milutin.zaric
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If there is such possibility in Linux to make ladder, it will make me much less headache.

I didn't take a look on ATC logic. There is spindle drive which is turning the magazine, sensor for home position, sensors on arm. But did not take closer look. I have to wait end of April to have MESA boards here, since they are not available in EU at the moment.
If somebody have some connection in EU, it would be highly appreciated if i can supply them here. Not to wait end of april.

Many thanks!

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27 Mar 2024 11:39 #296884 by tommylight
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Linux can not do ladder, but LinuxCNC can do ladder as it comes with Clasic Ladder included.
What boards do you need?
A combo that can be easily found is
Mesa 7i96S for step/dir and spindle
Mesa 7i83 for analog +-10V
Mesa 7i85 or 7i85S for encoder feedback

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27 Mar 2024 11:53 #296887 by milutin.zaric
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Sorry. I meant LinuxCNC.

I was looking something like this. 4 axis analog drives. (or 3 analog plus one digital for future 4th axis) Which means that probably, i will need one 7i83, one 7i85 or 7i85S, plus i will need extend for DIO. Not more than 32 in total including limit switches, and reference switches as inputs, and hydraulics for ATC.

I was hoping that i could find 7I77 like all in one solution for servo drives manipulation, since i am beginner in this.

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27 Mar 2024 12:04 #296890 by tommylight
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For IO, a Mesa 7i84 has 32 inputs and 16 outputs, easy to wire to Mesa 7i96S by cutting a network/LAN cable and using one half of it.
Wiring and combining Mesa boards is easy when you get the right stuff, so this combo is very easy to use:
7i96S to PC with lan cable
7i96S to 7i85 or 7i85S with IDC to DB25 cable, do not forget to order this
7i96S to 7i83 with half LAN cable
7i85 or 7i85S to 7i84 with the other half of LAN cable
Might want to double check this as i am on the phone, sipping coffee.

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27 Mar 2024 13:32 #296894 by milutin.zaric
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Don't interrupt the coffee :)

Correct me if i am wrong. Since i am using analog servo drives i think that i do not need 7i96 since it is intendent for digital drives servo/stepper?

Or i need it anyway to make all connected?

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27 Mar 2024 14:07 #296897 by tommylight
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You do need it as it has the FPGA.
Maybe, Mesa 7i92T can do instead of 7i96S...
So, do check this, but 7i92TM should be possible to plug into 7i85 directly, from 7i85 to 7i83 and 7i84 should go with 2 halfs of LAN cable. Even easier to put together, no IDC-DB25 required, and cheaper, if it is OK as a combo, is it PCW?

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27 Mar 2024 14:16 #296898 by PCW
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Yes, a 7I97TM + a 7I77 or 6I25+ 7I77 would be  options.
( + a Step/Dir  daughtecard or parallel port breakout
if you add a step/dir drive later)

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27 Mar 2024 14:34 #296899 by RotarySMP
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For my lathe I used 7i92-->7i85 to interface the encoders and smart serial daughter boards (7i84+7i83+7i73).

On the Maho I went for 5i25+7i77+7i84. I didn't use a 7i73 in the control head, and regretted it.
The following user(s) said Thank You: tommylight

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27 Mar 2024 14:54 #296900 by tommylight
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For my lathe I used 7i92-->7i85 to interface the encoders and smart serial daughter boards (7i84+7i83+7i73).

So this works, thank you for confirming this.
I refrain from suggesting stuff i did not try, despite being fairly sure it works.
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I am aware the 7i97T would be the best option, and 7i77 with any FPGA, but finding those has become "unobtanium" , and the above combo is usually in stock.

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27 Mar 2024 14:59 #296902 by milutin.zaric
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Sorry, but i lack with english shorts. What is PCW? :)

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