Atom 330 or D525 or D510?

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09 Jun 2012 01:25 #20783 by gera229
I'm thinking I would not need a Mesa card right?

And only 1 Power supply.

Plus a separate power supply to power my HobbyCNC Pro board that I got from Hobbycnc.com
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10 Jun 2012 05:38 #20793 by gera229
Hey so I found another Atom 330. Give me a reason why I should chose a D525 over an Atom 330 lol. I'm stuck between the choices. Both seem to perform good with onboard video and both have a built in parallel port.

Now according to the Latency Wiki, the Atom 330 has a lower jitter value than the D525 thus a better latency. That is why I'm confused here.

Aside from that, I do not not what settings the D525 used neither. It only says that it ran on Ubuntu version 10.04 and does not list if the one of the CPU cores was isolated to make it run on 1 core.

Maybe the D525 can perform better than shown in the latency test on the wiki?

Please let me know and convince me to get the right board.

If you use EMC2 with it let me know what results you get with either board.

Thanks.
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10 Jun 2012 08:33 #20795 by andypugh
gera229 wrote:

If you use EMC2 with it let me know what results you get with either board.

I don't have either. I have a D510MO (Works well) and a new DN2800MT (looks good, but hasn't run a machine yet)
The DN2800 has a couple of nice features (onboard PSU, so just needs 12V, LVDS as well as VGA (and HDMI) to run a wide range of monitors/touchscreens and supports miniPCIe wifi cards) but is still a bit more expensive.

In the final analysis any of these machines will run your CNC equally well, the PC will never be the limiting factor. If you don't intend using the machine for anything else, then get the cheapest.
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10 Jun 2012 09:01 #20797 by ArcEye
Replied by ArcEye on topic Re:Atom 330 or D525 or D510?
I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the DM2800MT, it should be a better board in theory

There is a lot of conflicting information about its use with Linux on the web, largely centres on the Intel GMA 3650 video chipset.
One review indicates requires the Meego proprietory xorg module and kernel 3.3.0 to work properly, which is way in front of any current rtai build or patches available.

However another article seems to suggest that it will work quite happily with bog standard vesa drivers, it is only HD - 3D/2D rendering that requires anything esoteric.

Guess you will find out soon!

regards
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10 Jun 2012 09:12 #20799 by andypugh
ArcEye wrote:

There is a lot of conflicting information about its use with Linux on the web, largely centres on the Intel GMA 3650 video chipset.


It's fine. It runs Axis and glxgears.
If that means it is running software OpenGL, all the better for latency.
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12 Jun 2012 18:54 #20852 by gera229
Ended up getting a used D525MW with 2Gb of ram included for $78 shipped.

Bad or good price?
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12 Jun 2012 20:31 #20856 by gera229
Also wondering if an SSD is worth the price difference.

I really want to go as cheap as possible. Will I have significant performance differences compared to SSD with a Hard Disk Drive?
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12 Jun 2012 21:45 #20857 by BigJohnT
Only if your in a hurry for Ubuntu to boot up or you have a machine that vibrates a lot would a SSD be worth the extra cost IMHO.

John
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13 Jun 2012 00:03 - 13 Jun 2012 00:05 #20860 by gera229
What does vibration have to do with hard drive choice?

I think I'm patient enough for the boot up of linux although I don't know how long it would take as I have not tried it yet.

I have a spare IDE hard drive, but sadly I cannot find an IDE connector on the d525mw motherboard.
I guess I'll just get a SATA HDD off ebay.

I hope I made the right choice on the D525 over the Atom 330 because it's faster in everything, but correct me if I am wrong.

I also realized I only saved $5-15 by getting a used D525MW board instead of a brand new D525MW setup and could have gotten it cheaper, not much savings I got and it was my mistake, but I am trying to not make a big deal out of it because at least I saved something.
Last edit: 13 Jun 2012 00:05 by gera229.
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13 Jun 2012 00:12 #20861 by andypugh
gera229 wrote:

What does vibration have to do with hard drive choice?

Vibration kills hard drives.

I also realized I only saved $5-15 by getting a used board instead of a brand new setup and could have gotten it cheaper, not much savings I got and it was my mistake, but I am trying to not make a big deal out of it because at least I saved something.

You are also in the right part of the bathtub curve. (your board won't die young)
For a HD, someone here found this the other day:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227811
Though I have tended to use DOM modules which plug into the SATA socket direct:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150593568661
A base install of LinuxCNC from the LiveCD is 2.3GB. 8GB is actually plenty.
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