VMC related HAL questions.
26 May 2015 08:14 #59054
by andypugh
Ok, that sounds like a torque-mode system.
Rather than repeat stuff:
www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/torque.html
But let us know how that works for you, maybe your experience can expand that.
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Encoders go back to the MESA card. If I were using brushless motors then hall sensors would go to the amps only.
Ok, that sounds like a torque-mode system.
Rather than repeat stuff:
www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/torque.html
But let us know how that works for you, maybe your experience can expand that.
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01 Jun 2015 10:38 #59293
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Been working a lot lately and l i finally made it over to the workshop, pulled the computer and all my MESA stuff to bring back home.
Reinstalled LinuxCNC with the latest updates. And now I may be moving workshops again... and then next Wednesday the 10th of June I am heading
over to your side of the pond Andy. Coming over for the 24 Hour LeMans..
I am hoping i can get to work on it when i get back but I may be putting all of my stuff in a storage unit for a little while until I can find
a smaller shop. the rent has been a killer and i was hoping to be able to get a garage built but the $$ has been slow coming.
I am going to set up the controls at home and then bring the whole thing to the machine when its ready.
Reinstalled LinuxCNC with the latest updates. And now I may be moving workshops again... and then next Wednesday the 10th of June I am heading
over to your side of the pond Andy. Coming over for the 24 Hour LeMans..
I am hoping i can get to work on it when i get back but I may be putting all of my stuff in a storage unit for a little while until I can find
a smaller shop. the rent has been a killer and i was hoping to be able to get a garage built but the $$ has been slow coming.
I am going to set up the controls at home and then bring the whole thing to the machine when its ready.
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02 Jun 2015 08:40 - 02 Jun 2015 09:23 #59325
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Having a slight problem.. getting an error when opening the VMC simulator.
I believe i followed your instructions to install the carousel comp.
But it doesn't look like it went to the correct directory
Was trying to attach the error file.. seems i got it to upload..
I believe i followed your instructions to install the carousel comp.
But it doesn't look like it went to the correct directory
Was trying to attach the error file.. seems i got it to upload..
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02 Jun 2015 16:20 #59336
by andypugh
No, it appears not "toolchange.hal:1: Can't find module 'carousel' in /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc"
Can you paste the output of(Or sudo halcompile... if using a development LinuxCNC version)
If it doesn't end with a cp... command then something hasn't quite worked.
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I believe i followed your instructions to install the carousel comp.
But it doesn't look like it went to the correct directory
No, it appears not "toolchange.hal:1: Can't find module 'carousel' in /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc"
Can you paste the output of
sudo comp --install --install-doc carousel.compIf it doesn't end with a cp... command then something hasn't quite worked.
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02 Jun 2015 21:55 - 03 Jun 2015 09:04 #59346
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I got it !!!...
i did a lot of searching ...
i finally found your post 58057
followed the way it was done there and it worked ....
I was way off on the procedure.
i did a lot of searching ...
i finally found your post 58057
followed the way it was done there and it worked ....
I was way off on the procedure.
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05 Jun 2015 18:32 #59472
by thewho
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Well I finally had a go at the closed loop spindle control you helped me with.
I didn't really know what I was doing so I'll attach the files if you Andy or someone else have the time to take a look at them?
One thing, I have a +/-10V drive so there i no need for the fwd/rev outputs. I just commented those lines but I might have to edit something else to?
I didn't really know what I was doing so I'll attach the files if you Andy or someone else have the time to take a look at them?
One thing, I have a +/-10V drive so there i no need for the fwd/rev outputs. I just commented those lines but I might have to edit something else to?
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05 Jun 2015 21:28 #59480
by andypugh
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You have
You need to un-comment the loadrt mux2, as I don't think you have that loaded elsewhere.
This needs to beTo send the bipolar speed command to the analogout.
loadrt orient addf orient.0 servo-thread #loadrt mux2 -- This has already been loaded in the sim_vmc.hal addf mux2.0 servo-thread # chooses which pid output goes to the spindle speed control
You need to un-comment the loadrt mux2, as I don't think you have that loaded elsewhere.
#for a real spindle run by a VFD loadrt abs addf abs.0.servo-thread net spindle-cmd mux2.0.out abs.0.in net spindle-cmd-abs hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5 #net spindle-fwd abs.0.is-positive parport.0.pin-NN-out #net spindle-rev abs.0.is-negative parport.0.pin-NN-out
This needs to be
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05 Jun 2015 22:14 #59485
by thewho
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Like this?
#for a real spindle run by a VFD
loadrt abs
addf abs.0.servo-thread
net spindle-cmd mux2.0.out hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5
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05 Jun 2015 22:21 #59486
by andypugh
No...
Replace the entire section I quoted with the single replacement line.
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Like this?
#for a real spindle run by a VFD loadrt abs addf abs.0.servo-thread net spindle-cmd mux2.0.out hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5 net spindle-cmd-abs hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5
No...
Replace the entire section I quoted with the single replacement line.
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05 Jun 2015 22:52 - 05 Jun 2015 23:29 #59488
by thewho
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Oh, when reading your message again it seems quite obvious 
Tried it in the machine but I see no change in behavior. I did not get any errors at startup.
Tried a M3 S100 but It doesn't compensate at all? Am I missing something here?
M33.1 Does not do anything ether.
EDIT: Oh wait, I´m stupid.. Did get an error though
EDIT2:
Tried it in the machine but I see no change in behavior. I did not get any errors at startup.
Tried a M3 S100 but It doesn't compensate at all? Am I missing something here?
M33.1 Does not do anything ether.
EDIT: Oh wait, I´m stupid.. Did get an error though
EDIT2:
Debug file information:
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Error: could not insert module /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/pid.ko: File exists
spindle.hal:1: exit value: 1
spindle.hal:1: insmod failed, returned -1
See the output of 'dmesg' for more information.
4364
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components
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